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Loipon , na ta paroume ta pragmata apo tin arxi.

To set mou einai to eksis:

1) Laptop HP Pavillion dv 9700 , me intel core 2 duo T9300 2,5GHZ
RAM 3 GB , Service Pack 2 , Vista Home Premium , 32 bit.
Leitourgei edo kai 4 sinapta eti APROVLIMATISTA , kai xoris na xrisimopoiite gia Internet.
Exo vevaia , antivirus(Panda) , to opoio frontizo na einai enimeromeno , gia na min mou zitaei enimerosi ,
kai episis , einai apenergopoiimeno to aytomato scan , k.l.p
Episis frontizo , na exei ginei update , kai sta windows apo prin.
Fysika , einai kleista , wifi & BT , otan paizo.
Ki etsi me aytes , se genikes grammes tis rythmiseis , opos eipa den eixa mexri xtes kanena provlima.

Synexizo.....

2) Karta ixou Maya 44 usb , me dokimasmenous , tous drivers , palious kai neoterous , kai exo kataliksei sto paliotero driver , meta kai apo sxetiki sizitisi , se palaiotero topic me ton Giorgo(Phantom).
Sundemeni fysika , kateftheian , se usb2 epano sto laptop , kai me apla rca , sto analogiko mou mikti.

3) Analogikos miktis numark cm200 usb , ta opoia usb tou mikti fysika den ta xrisimopoio.

4) Controller , numark dmc2 , syndedemeno , me usb 2 , epano sto plato tou aerismou tou laptop , ki ayto me tin seira tou , epano se usb 2.
Pote den exo asxolithei , me toys drivers tou controller h alitheia , einai , kai episis , den mou eixe dimiourgisei kanena provlima , pou den itan sindemenos apeytheias , pano sto laptop , alla sto aerismo k.l.p

TO PROVLIMA

Xtes eno epaiza , se mia ekdilosi , ksafnika , KOLLISE H othoni , stamatise teleios kai H mousiki , kai den doyleve tipota ston ypologisti , eixan kollisei ta panta , oute to pontiki , tipota.O Controller stis othonitses tou , egrafe ta stoixeia ton kommation pou itan fortomena.
Angkastika ,ebgala reyma kai mpataria , apo to laptop , gia na kleisei.
Meta pou , anoikse pali den mou anagnorize ton controller , kai malista o controller akomi egrafe stis othones ta stoixeia , ton kommation pou itan fortomena , opote ton ebgala ki Ayton apo to reuma , kai ton anoiksa ksana , kai tote ton anagnorise telika.

Omos meta mou ekane kapoia kopsimata sto kommati , den ksekinouse , H ksekinouse kai ekane diakopes , blepontas kai tin kymatomorfi , na phgainei diakekomena , k.l.p k.l.p

Stis rythmiseis tou programmatos mas , tin karta ixou tin exo auto kai asfali leitourgeia ,scratch poiotita , master tempo grigoro ,
memory 15mn , skinresizing , sto fast , kai ultra latency asio.

Ayto pou skeftomai na kano , einai ena gero format ston ypologisti , kai na ton stiso pleon akrivos opos prepei , kai na asxolitho , kai me tous drivers , tou controller , pio poly.

Episis teleionontas , na po oti H sxesi tou ypologisti me to internet , einai otan kano ekpompi sto radio.
Einai provlima ayto?

Sygnomi , xilia sygnomi gia to sentoni , alla ego efaga kai to paploma extes , kai ta eida ola.

Eyxarsito ek ton proteron
 

Mensajes Mon 08 Jul 13 @ 5:13 am
djdadPRO InfinityDevelopment ManagerMember since 2005
Gianni, prepei na eisai apo tous ligous djs pou paizoun live me Vista. SVISTA ! Ta ypoloipa tha einai apla mia kaki anaminisi :)
 

Mensajes Mon 08 Jul 13 @ 6:58 am
Mpampi mou , exeis apolyto dikio , kai kala pou to kolima mou egine , sto akoustiko programma , gia skepsou , na mou ginotane sto kyrios xoreytiko programma , ................den thelo na to skeftomai.............

Mporeis na me voithiseis omos me tis diadikasies svisimatos ton vista?
Kai pos na valo ta 7aria , pou kanoun 100 euro , ki aytin tin periodo einai dyskola........

Tespa prepei na eimai etoimos Paraskevi , giati PSK , exo pali 3 ekdiloseis , kai opos eipa pera apo ena format , pou (mallon......)
mporo na kano , meta , den to exo to thema , na sviso vista , k.l.p k.l.p.

Kai ama einai na valo mono ta aparaitita , gia djing , den me endiaferei kati allo. , exo deytero laptop.

Tota pou leo gia deytero laptop , einai Toshiba Satellite , ma anabathmismena , apo Vista se 7aria , apo cd tis Toshiba , pou mou eixan kanei prosfora kai etsi einai 7aria kanonika , home premium 32bit , service pack 1 , me intel core 2 duo cpu t6400 2gb kai ram 3gb kai exei 15,4 othoni , anti gia 17ara tou HP me ta Vista , kai oi 2 skliroi tou einai apo 150gb o kathenas , anti gia 250gb o kathenas tou HP.

Bebaia exei ena karo programmata fortomena , alla an kano ena backup , kai ta metafero , ston HP me ta vista , kai kano ena format , ston Toshiba , me ta 7aria , mipos einai kalitera ?
Na doulevo diladi telika me ton Toshiba pou exei 7aria?Alla tha anagnorizoun ta 7aria tin dmc2 ? kai tin maya?
Kai isos me ton Toshiba pou exei mikroteri xoritikotita diskon , anagkasto na xrisimopoiiso eksoteriko skliro.

Mpampi moy gia pes mou tin apopsi sou?

Esy les oti ftaine ta vista protarxikos , kai meta na koitakso gia driver k.l.p etsi?

Kai pali eyxaristo ek ton proteron.
 

Mensajes Mon 08 Jul 13 @ 10:10 am
djdadPRO InfinityDevelopment ManagerMember since 2005
Ennoeitai oti svineis Vista simainei kathari egkatastasi me format tou sklirou me Windows 7 kata protimisi. Den mporw oute egw oute kanenas na einai sigouros gia to ti synaivei, mporei na itan kai ena tyxaio gegonos. Omws to gegonos einai oti ta Vista exoun apodeixthei to xeirotero leitourgiko pou evgale pote i Microsoft, kyriws oson afora tin USB epikoinwnia ( to opoio kai mas kaiei).
Prospathise na lyseis proskaira to thema, xrisimopiwsntas to backup laptop sou (afou vevaiwtheis oti trexei swsta spiti) kai pare mazi sou kai to Vista laptop gia backup. Exe kai ta dyo na trexoun to VirtualDJ tautoxronna , syndedemena ston mikti sou. As exeis to backup laptop mono san Master me tin onboard karta ixou kai xwris controller, apla gia na kaneis epanekinisi to allo laptop an xreiastei.
 

Mensajes Mon 08 Jul 13 @ 10:51 am
Opote kalitera na allakso laptop , afou to mikro exei idi 7aria , kai to allo me ta vista pou eixa os vasiko mexri tora na to kano backup.
Ara na kano ena backup kalitera sto mikro , kai meta ena format , gia na tou kano kathari egkatastasi apo tin arxi ta 7aria.

Sto radio , pou kano ekpompi einai kalitera na min sindeo to laptop pou paizo stis ekdiloseis? Ti les?

En pasei periptosi , kano skatza laptop , en oligois , kai vlepoume........

Ante me tin psixi sto stoma tha paikso PSK , alla tha exo kai to allo laptop syndemeno ston mikti me eksodo apo ta akoustika me rca ston mikti , tha exo kai mia cdiera , kalou kakou , kai o theos voithos............


P.S:Yparxei periptosi otan mou zitisei na peraso ton kodiko ton windows 7 apo to cd , na mou pei oti exei xrisimopoithei kai kati tetoia , epeidi ton exo valei idi ?
Kai exei simasia , pou egine apo anavthmisi apo ta vista se 7 ? H oxi kai vazo kateyteian to cd ton 7 ?
 

Mensajes Mon 08 Jul 13 @ 10:59 am
apopsisdjPRO InfinitySenior staffMember since 2003
Gianni exeis 2 themata edo...
Ena oti se piezei o xronos gia to PSK opote an den eisai sigouros min xalaseis tipota akoma...
Deutero oti isos exeis hardware problima am krino apo ton tropo pou kolise.

Pio analytika,
Gia to laptop me ta Vista pio poly me anisixei oti einai kia HP pou simainei fobera yperfortomeno me "bloatware" (diladi skoupidia pou trexoun sto background)., ,,,, h HP to exei parakanei se auto to thema eidika stin epoxi ton vista den ksero tora.

To proto pou kano ego otan pesei stin katoxi mou laptop enaii
- image backup se ghost protimotera - just in case... etsi an paeio kati straba sti synexeia mporeis na gyriseis piso..
- Brisko kai katebazo drivers apo to site,
- Telos format kai egkatastasi KATHARA windows, kai oxi system restore apo krimeno partition pou se paei pali se ergostasiako setup.

Bebaia oi etairies frontisan na ta kanoun ola auta dyskola gia ton aplo xristi, gia auto an den eisai sigouros min o kaneis monos sou.
Endexetai px h egkatastasi apo to cd on win 7 pou exeis na min proxoraei ga kathari egkatastasi alla mono gia upgrade, opos sou eipa, einai san oloi na synomotusan na pas to mixanima sou kapou kai na pliroseis gia auto !
Sou grafo pos to kano mipos se bohthisei kapoios allos konta sou pou mporei.

Tora gia to deutero thema..

kane epigontos ena check tis thermokrasies, myrizomai thema yperthermansis.
Na ena kalo ergaleio gia auto :
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/System-Info/Everest-Home-Edition.shtml

Ego tha pigaina kai parapera gia memtest (check gia memmory) alla kai checkdisk

Telos.
Trekse auto prin ksekiniseis na paizeis mousiki eite exeis problima eite oxi, "na skotoseis" merika background tasks :
http://www.virtualdj.com/addons/16006/VirtualDJ_PC_Optimizer.html
 

Mensajes Mon 08 Jul 13 @ 2:46 pm
Giorgo mou , ola ayta pou mou les , den mou einai kai toso katanoita , toulaxiston oxi ola , kai pragmati mallon tha prepei na vro kapoion pou na to exei na me voithisei....o kathenas stin douleia tou...........
Alla epeidi emena toulaxiston kapoia mou fainontai kinezika , ara kai vouno , den ksero kai oute exo kai kapoion anthropo , na mou ta ftiaksei ola ayta , kai den milao gia dorean , fysika , ama einai ayti I douleia tou , kai genika to exei.
Kai dystyxos , emeis eimaste kai makria , gia na kanoume ayti tin douleia.
Mpampiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis , mipos mipos mipos , mporeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis ????????????????????????????????

En to metaksy pros to paron PROSPATHO apo to apogeyma na ksekiniso kanontas ena antigrafo asfaleias sta 7aria kai kati den kano kala mallon...........kai den mou vgike me tin proti , alla den to vazo kato.

Oso gia ta 7aria , nai ta exo se kanoniko episimo cd , tora kata poso einai katharo tha se gelaso.......

Kai mou tin lene kai oi alloi pou paizoun me cd , katalaves file mou.....pffff
 

Mensajes Mon 08 Jul 13 @ 6:11 pm
apopsisdjPRO InfinitySenior staffMember since 2003
Sou edosa omos 2 ammeses symboules pou mporeis na kaneis monos sou :
- Na elenkseis tin thermokrasia ...an px ta blower einai blokarizmena kai h cpu sou anebenei sous 90 bathmous na giati sou kollise.
- An trexoun asxeta programmata, kai theoro asxeto kai to 'panta' sou.. (nai), kai alla services to pc optomizewr tha boithisei ligo.
 

Mensajes Mon 08 Jul 13 @ 6:22 pm
Giorgo to optimizer to anoigo , patao 1 , pernaei kapoia pragmata , ena katebato kai grafei diafora sta grigora , kai meta , moy grafei
Your PC has been optimized successfully

Press 1 if you want to restore everything for normal use
Press 2 to quit

Ti kano?
Patao pali 1 ? Kai genika to afino anoixto to programma , anoixti aytin tin mayri othoni , kai ksekinao to virtual kai doulevo?
H Patao 2 kai vgaino apo to programma?
Pos ginetai?

Ama patiso pali 1 , pio pano mou grafei > Press 1 if you want to optimize your laptop for a gig

Kathos episis den katalava katholou kai to pos doulevei to allo programma gia tin thermokrasia.
 

Mensajes Tue 09 Jul 13 @ 2:30 am
Loipon leo na pao na doso 100 euro kai na paro ta windows 8 ellinika 32 bit dsp apo edo
http://www.public.gr/product/computers-and-software/software/operating-systems/microsoft-windows-8-ellinika-32bit-dsp/prod3081033pp/
kai na kano ena format ston ypologisti me ta vista kai na teleiono mia kai kali.
Ti lete?
Windows 8 H 7 ?
To sygkekrimeno software pou paratheto , tha doulepsei me ton ypologisti mou , ton HP , pou anafero texnika tou stoixeia sto proto post?
Episis me to programma mas doulevei etsi kanonika?
Kai malista thelo na ta kano kathari egkatastasi , mono gia na doulevo , oute antivirius , na valo , oute update na mou kanei.
Ti lete?
Ama einai na pao to apogeyma na ta paro , gia na min sas zalizo ki allo me to paron thread.
 

Mensajes Tue 09 Jul 13 @ 4:16 am
djsadimPRO InfinityMember since 2006
gianni epeses sthn peript eimai poly busy alios 8a ta fiaxname mazi
;)
egw protimw ta 7aria apo ta 8aria!
 

Mensajes Tue 09 Jul 13 @ 5:44 am
djsadim wrote :
gianni epeses sthn peript eimai poly busy alios 8a ta fiaxname mazi
;)


Den peirazei douleia na yparxei , kai mono o logos sou ftanei , opos kai na'xei se eyxaristo kai mono pou to eipes.

Apla thelo mia epivevaiosi , an einai na pao to apogeyma na paro ta 8aria , efoson trexoun aprovlimatista ston HP pou exei tora ta Vista
(TEXNIKA STOIXEIA ANAFERO STO PROTO POST)
Kai fysika efoson doulevei episis aprovlimatista kai to programma mas me ta sygkekrimena 8aria.
Idia xrimata me ta 7aria kanoun opote , ama einai na to kano , as valo ta 8aria pou einai kai poio kainourgia.

An eimaste se ola O.K , pera apo backup , pou ston HP den mou xreiazetai stin ousia , apla vazo to cd me ta 8aria mesa , kano restart , kai epilego format apo to cd k.l.p ?
Ligo ki edo ta fota sas , me ta sosta vimata?
 

Mensajes Tue 09 Jul 13 @ 5:54 am
djsadimPRO InfinityMember since 2006
gianni afoy exeis to cd twn 7 giati den dokimazeis me ayta prota kai an den se afinei pas gia agora twn 8!!!
 

Mensajes Tue 09 Jul 13 @ 6:36 am
djsadim wrote :
gianni afoy exeis to cd twn 7 giati den dokimazeis me ayta prota kai an den se afinei pas gia agora twn 8!!!


Giati to cd ton 7 , einai mono gia ton Toshiba , kai malista apo anavathmisi apo vista , kai den ginetai na to peraso fysika ston HP , pou exei vista.
Episis o HP , me voleyei kalytera , giati ektos apo tinj megaliteri othoni , exei kai diplasia xoritikotita diskon apo ton Toshiba.
Kai telos o Toshiba , einai fortomenos ola ta programmata , pou xrisimopoio , mias kai ton HP me ta vista , ton exo mono gia na paizo.
Opote tha xreiastei kai back up , o Toshiba me ta 7aria , pou meta mporei na min ginetai epanafora sta Vista , an ekana skatza tous ypologistes opos elega parapano.
Ara pou kataligoume gia amesa kai eykola?
Format ston HP me ta vista , perasma 8aria , kai rythmiseis mono gia virtual , fortoma tragoudion apo ton eksoteriko skliro , download , to programma mas , rythmiseis , drivers , kai mallon..........tha eimai poio etoimos apo prin , an ola pane kala.

Den ksero akomi perimeno kai apantiseis gia tin symbotita ton 8 , me ton HP , kai me to virtual.
 

Mensajes Tue 09 Jul 13 @ 6:50 am
djdadPRO InfinityDevelopment ManagerMember since 2005
Den mporw na sou eggyithw oti ta 8 tha trexoun swsta ston ypologisti sou. Den einai thema VirtualDJ. Einai oti apo ti stigmi pou to laptop sou einai tis genias twn Vista, endexomenws einai arketa palio gia na yparxoun swstoi drivers gia to Windows 8. Exw tin entypwsi pws sto site tis Microsoft yparxei mia epilogi na kaneis ena test kai na deis an ta Windows mporoun na egkatastathoun i oxi. Auto vevaia kai pali den einai kai 100% sigouro, afou pera apo tis kartes grafikwn , motherboard klp syskeues toy ypologisti, prepei na deis an kai kata posos i Maya i i opoiadipote USB syskeui sou trexei kanonika.
An mporeis na vreis Windows 7, tha itan to idaniko. Alloiws dystixws kaneis den mporei na sou eggyithei gia to apotelesma.

Apo ti stigmi pou exeis ekdilwseis sti seira (full season) stin thesi sou apla tha ekana kapoio katharisma, syntirisi se auto pou exeis. Stin esxati twn periptwsewn mia epanegaktastasi tou leitourgikou i kai kapoio format. To gegonos oti synevei mia fora, den den simainei oti exeis anagkastika kai provlima.

Na sou pws kiai mia periptwsi pou etyxe se mena prosfata me to palio laptop pou xrisimopoiousa perysi. Etyxe se mia ekdilwsi kai mou kollise to sympan. Etreksa to ypoloipo tis vradyas me to allo laptop.
Sto spiti otan to evala na treksei , diapistwsa meta poa liga lepta oti i thermokrasia anevike stous 70-80 C. (normal prepei na einai gyrw stous 50 C). To anemistiraki to akouga. Telika apo tis polles ekdilwseis se ekswterikous xwrous, eixe mazepsei tin apisteuti skoni. Me ena pistolaki kai arketi wra, katafera na to katharisw (fyswntas stis opoies sxismes/anoigmata eida), kai to laptop epanilthe sta fysiologika epipeda.
Gia auto kai o Giwrgos sou eipe kati sxetiko me thermokrasies, apo ti stigmi pou den allakses kati sto laptop to opoio kai etrexe kanonika.

Afou perasei i mpora kai tin vgaleis me auta pou exeis, vlepeis me tin isyxia sou ti mporeis na kaneis. Se kamia periptwsi den prepei na meineis me dyo laptop gia ta opoioa den eisai sigouros oti douleuoun swsta. Psyxraimia panw apo ola.

Telos tha sou pw kai auto... Apo tin empeiria mou...kaneis den prokeitai na sou dwsei 100% lysi se opoiodipote provlima pou mporei na exeis me tous ypologistes sou. Oloi kanoume ypotheseis me vasi tin empeiria mas kai auta pou exoume dei kai diavasei. Kathe ypologistis kai kathe periptwsi omws mporei na einai monadiki. Dystixws, oson afora toys ypologsites, exw ksanapei oti einai san tis gunaikes.. Avysos !!!
 

Mensajes Tue 09 Jul 13 @ 7:12 am
Mpampi krato to teleytaio pou eipes AVISOS..........

Ostoso afou ta 7aria , tha doupepsun pio sigoura , mporo na paro kai 7aria.



Mpampis: Ki egw auto tha ekana ;)

 

Mensajes Tue 09 Jul 13 @ 7:24 am
Dee PPRO InfinityMember since 2006
Γιάννη, όπως τo βλέπω εγώ -και επιβεβαιώνοντας τους προλαλήσαντες- η κατάσταση έχει ως εξής:

Το πρόβλημα που αντιμετωπίζεις οφείλεται -κατά πάσα πιθανότητα- σε έναν ή περισσότερους από τους εξής παράγοντες:

α) Σε κάποιο λογισμικό που εγκατέστησες και έρχεται σε σύγκρουση με την επεξεργασία ήχου/ εικόνας σε πραγματικό χρόνο (real time audio/ video)
β) Σε βλάβη/ δυσλειτουργία κάποιου εξαρτήματος του υπολογιστή σου (συνήθως ανεμιστήρας, που έχει ως απόρροια την αύξηση θερμοκρασίας με αποτέλεσμα την ολική κατάρρευση της κάρτας γραφικών, και ως συνέπεια του λειτουργικού σου συστήματος).
γ) Κάποια από τις μνήμες RAM που απλά χάλασε.

Ολοκληρώνοντας τη διάγνωση/ εκτίμηση μου θα σου έλεγα ότι το β) είναι πιό πιθανό από το α) και το α) πιό πιθανό από το γ)

Τώρα όσον αφορά στην επίλυση του προβλήματος θα πρότεινα τα εξής:

α) Υπολόγισε ότι θα δουλέψεις με τον εφεδρικό υπολογιστή σου για τουλάχιστον δύο εβδομάδες.

β) Κάνεις back-up σε όλα σου τα αρχεία και τις βάσεις δεδομένων του VDJ.

γ) Έχοντας την υποψία ότι ποτέ δε καθάρισες τις διόδους εξαερισμού του φορητού υπολογιστή σου:
1) αποσυνέδεσε το τροφοδοτικό ρεύματος
2) βγάλε τη μπαταρία
3) ξεβίδωσε ότι καπάκια έχει απο κάτω ο υπολογιστής σου
4) Πάρε ένα πιστολάκι (για τα μαλλιά) και στη χαμηλότερη (για αρχή) ένταση που έχει -και με κρύο αέρα-, άρχισε να απελευθερώνεις τις διόδους εξαερισμού του υπολογιστή σου από την μούργα που έχουν πιάσει ως τώρα.

δ) Κάνεις Format το σκληρό σου δίσκο και ξεχνάς τους όρους VISTA και Win 8!
ε) Εγκαθιστάς Win 7 και ακολουθείς τις οδηγίες αυτές: http://www.virtualdj.com/forums/169903/Greek_Forum/__931___965___957___964___945___947___942____947___953___945____964___941___955___949___953___959____968___951___966___953___945___954___972__DJing_.html (όχι κατά γράμμα, αλλά μόνο ότι είναι σχετικό στη περίπτωσή σου).


Αν κάνεις όλα τα παραπάνω και δεν δεις αποτελέσματα, κάτι δε πάει καλά: ΄Η ο υπολογιστής σου ή εγώ (ελπίζω το δεύτερο)
:-)

 

Mensajes Tue 09 Jul 13 @ 7:34 pm
Exo kanei ola ta parapano , kai kapoies rythmiseis , me ton Giorgo , ektos apo svisimo ton vista.
Ostoso me ayta , pou exoun ginei mexri tora exo idi dei , xamiloteri thermokrasia , kai pio grigoro ton ypologisti , kai poly xamiloteri tin cpu.
Menei na ton doulepso se real time , simera ayrio na do pos paei , isos na ginoun kai kapoies rythmiseis sto programma ,
kai PSK na doulepsei kanonika , alla kai me ton backup ypologisti sindemeno ston mikti , kai vlepoume....
 

Mensajes Wed 10 Jul 13 @ 6:55 am
Mexri stigmis pame kala , opote pleon , apo Deytera , meta to crash test tou PSK , ta neotera , pou eyxomai (eyxithitai ki eseis) na einai eyxarista!!!
 

Mensajes Thu 11 Jul 13 @ 3:12 pm
Dee PPRO InfinityMember since 2006
Καλή επιτυχία!!!
 

Mensajes Thu 11 Jul 13 @ 4:47 pm
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