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GadgetMan wrote :
Hmmm.... Doesn't help that the Atomix team are keeping quiet too!


the whole DMX thing is pretty low in priority, especially because only a handfull of DJ's would use it even if it was available..

not a big deal.. IF I pull the trigger and get the SUIDI interface, it probably wont be until jan. or feb. anyways..


The first question I need to find out is which interface I have to get..

The two choices are the SUIDI 5C and SUIDI 6C

will both work with the DasHard.dll?
 
Thanks for popping by Rick ;-)

Does this mean your listening waiting for us to get it working ... lol

Or will you be able to help and offer some assistance?

I assume that during the testing of 6.0.x someone hooked up a DMX light and got this working, which means there must be a script or two laying around. Any chance Hippy & I can get hold of these?

Thanks again,

Roy
 
We had DMX and dropped it.
Nobody used it and it was not missed when we dropped it.

There are some free excellent options available with Freestyler as one case.
To build this from the ground level up makes no sense with what those free options do for a show with preset fixture files loaded for 90% of the lighting you would run across.

Its just as easy to alt tab between interfaces on the same machine if you don't want or have a second computer.

It would be easier to just use a switch panel than go this route imo.
 
GadgetMan wrote :
Thanks for popping by Rick ;-)

Does this mean your listening waiting for us to get it working ... lol

Or will you be able to help and offer some assistance?

I forgot to mention,
I started a "Ticket" just before he "popped" in..
maybe he was the one who recieved it?
LOL

This renewed interest in the DMX thing is probably blowing everyones mind.. roflma!
 
GadgetMan wrote :


I assume that during the testing of 6.0.x someone hooked up a DMX light and got this working, which means there must be a script or two laying around. Any chance Hippy & I can get hold of these?

Thanks again,

Roy


Why would you assume this?
Not even on the table to be honest.

If you guys want to figure it out, that is fine.
Most of the teamers are busy with other things though.
 
mp3jrick wrote :
We had DMX and dropped it.
Nobody used it and it was not missed when we dropped it.



If DMX has been dropped, why are the verbs there for mapping DMX functions?

Also if it has been dropped, why has acw_dj , senior team member posted on the other thread on this topic:

Posted Tue 17 Nov 09 @ 5:40 am
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Well,

Now with VirtualDJ 6.0.3 is easiest than ever... You just need any USB DMX controller and if it has drivers for Windows, install them and that's VirtualDJ need to use it.

Now you have to program it as you do in a MIDI device, the functions available are:

dmx
dmx_color
dmx_chase
dmx_strobe
dmx_black
dmx_flash
dmx_setvalue

Not sure but seems this work too with VirtualDJ and don't cost to much

http://www.vellemanusa.com/us/enu/product/view/?id=522065

Good Luck!



Does the DMX feature still work or not?
If it does, PLEASE help us figure out how to use it :)
 
hippydog wrote :
The first question I need to find out is which interface I have to get..

The two choices are the SUIDI 5C and SUIDI 6C

will both work with the DasHard.dll?


If this is the case then I'm on stuck from the start. I have the sweetlight USB/DMX cable which, from a quick Google, doesn't work with the SunLite API - Obviously!!!

In which case I would prefer to see what others have been asking for which is a BPM ticm out of VDJ to other software like Sweetlight and Freestyler.

Obviously this would mean software changes at both ends, but once it's in VDJ, open source projects like FreeStyler will soon adapt...

Cheers,

Roy
 
mp3jrick wrote :
Why would you assume this?
Not even on the table to be honest.

If you guys want to figure it out, that is fine.
Most of the teamers are busy with other things though.


Case closed. Will look for an alternative solution.

It was good while it lasted...

Cheers,

Roy
 
mp3jrick wrote :
We had DMX and dropped it.
Nobody used it and it was not missed when we dropped it.

is this official?

Why were the DMX verbs included with the new mapping engine?

mp3jrick wrote :
There are some free excellent options available with Freestyler as one case.

It would be easier to just use a switch panel than go this route imo.


As i said at the beiginning of the thread, I realize there are many options, some much easier and better..

that was NEVER the reason why I got interested in this.. This thread wasnt about taking the easy way out, it was about exploring DMX integration with VDJ.. Step one was to show people how to do it.. steps 2 to 12 was to make it usefull..

soooo..
once again..

mp3jrick wrote :
We had DMX and dropped it.

is this official?
is all DMX functionality gone from VDJ 6.x?

did it work with VDJ 5.x ?
 
Just to tease you all, I've had full DMX control in VDJ6 using one of the Velleman interfaces ;)

I did however cheat and wrote a plugin to do it, controlling all fixtures using the CBG in VDJ as a reference point. At some point I was intending to make it a bit more flexible - because it was just for my use I hardcoded all the fixtures and override scenes.
 
Would it work with the Valleman VM116/K8062? That's the one I have :)

I think you should be bumped up from Senior Moderator, How does Plug-In GOD sound?
 
Thats the one I used too, needed a DMX controller one evening - ran to Maplin, bought the kit and ran it with Freestyler.
 
SBDJ wrote :
Just to tease you all, I've had full DMX control in VDJ6 using one of the Velleman interfaces ;)

I did however cheat and wrote a plugin to do it, controlling all fixtures using the CBG in VDJ as a reference point. At some point I was intending to make it a bit more flexible - because it was just for my use I hardcoded all the fixtures and override scenes.


Git!!! lol

But hey a plug-in that would spit the CBG out to other DMX software would be good. If you have that bit licked then you can just get rid of the DMX side of things...

An internediate option would be to have a simpler version of what was in VDJ and to allow mapable keys to turn lights on, off, strobe, flash and S2L. That we we could simply just store the channel/value in the relevant section of an XML file and have your plug-in spit the values when required:

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<fixture>
<name>Magic Gobo (Left)</name>
<on channel="1">255</on>
<off channel="1">255</off>
<strobe channel="2">255</strobe>
<flash channel="2">255</flash>
<beat channel="3">255</beat>
<fixture>

</fixture>
<name>Magic Gobo (Right)</name>
<on channel="4">255</on>
<off channel="4">255</off>
<strobe channel="5">255</strobe>
<flash channel="5">255</flash>
<beat channel="6">255</beat>
</fixture>

"On" would send all the <on...> channel and values, and so on...
"Beat" would simply put the lights in S2L mode

So Scott, not to pile on the pressure (only joking), but CBG to Midi Clock plug-in would get people some people excited, and the simple DMX control plug-in describd above would work for me and probably hippydog as well.

Only issue is the interfaces. Looks like you got one working and soundlight has the only other published API.

Looks like I'll have to invest in another interface if you pull this off...

Roy
 
SBDJ wrote :
Just to tease you all, I've had full DMX control in VDJ6 using one of the Velleman interfaces ;)

I did however cheat and wrote a plugin to do it, controlling all fixtures using the CBG in VDJ as a reference point. At some point I was intending to make it a bit more flexible - because it was just for my use I hardcoded all the fixtures and override scenes.


Thats a major tease.. but it does make my point, on why I am interested in VDJ also being able to handle DMX

mp3jrick wrote :"Nobody used it and it was not missed when we dropped it. "

Rick had a good point.. no one missed it..

the reason NO ONE missed it, is because MOST don't understand the huge potential of an integrated DMX Control..

How do we get people interested? we show them... (or at least I was hoping i could show them.. I'm now wondering if its even possible to make one of my color changers blink.. LOL )
 
GadgetMan wrote :
So Scott, not to pile on the pressure (only joking), but CBG to Midi Clock plug-in


Going to sound big headed here, but I actually managed that too. I never polished and finished it though...
 
SBDJ wrote :
Going to sound big headed here, but I actually managed that too. I never polished and finished it though...


Well polish it then... Not your big head, the plug-in... lol

I'm sitting about to try my sweetlight cable with FreeStyler, if I can get those two hooked up then it'll just be getting your "polished" plug-in working with FreeStyler.

I know you'll not be surprised, but I'm willing to test ;-)

Cheers,

Roy
 
GadgetMan wrote :

I'm sitting about to try my sweetlight cable with FreeStyler, if I can get those two hooked up then it'll just be getting your "polished" plug-in working with FreeStyler.

You should start a new thread about this in Virtual DJ Plugins.. :-)
Maybe if you generate enough interest you can get it done!..

Myself, I still want to get some definite answers about the SUIDI interface.

thanx
 
Turns out FreeStyler sees my Sweetlight cable as SUIDI...

Which should be good news.

Now I need to create fixtures as only my Magic Gobos are recognised - Always the way!

Roy
 
Hi,

Well guys, sorry if I got you waiting for an answer. I haven't found any notice about this feature isn't working. And I post what I found about it. I'm willing to get it working, but haven't my dmx controller yet. Suidi was supported since this feature is available in VDJ (Suidi 5 at least). I don't see any message that tell this isn't working anymore, but I think it hasn't tested at all, so maybe we need to work on it. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm willing to get it working. Sunlite was the first DMX controller supported, and I read somewhere on the forums that this Velleman DMX controller also works (can remember where, sorry maybe I dream about it, but believe it is a chance to get it working too).

http://www.vellemanusa.com/us/enu/product/view/?id=522065

So now I have to said, this messages (and I think also Rick one) was not official answers, but what I as individual think on this matter (also think that was Rick's posts too). If it is going to be an official answer, we post it that way AS OFFICIAL. So this are my personal point of view and believe, and I think it could be working with little help (like you guys are doing). So I will check also about it, and check if I can get more information on this.

Peace
 
hippydog wrote :

OK.. I'm starting a new thread related to using VDJ to control DMX lights
Just so everyone understands.
this thread is meant to be just about VDJ..
I do realize there are LOTS of great lighting programs out there, that will do the job 100 times better,
but that ISNT what I am trying to accomplish.. I simply want to see if I can get VDJ to do it, and find out ALL THATS REQUIRED TO DO SO
:-)



musicalcheers wrote :
Midi clock out would be perfect. Not just for controlling lighting (I used to use freestyler but went to lightfactory a few years ago), but for other applications as well. Would you be willing to share the plugin? I fully understand if it has some issues but lighting sync is not mission critical but be good if it doesnt crash the music ;) Happy to do any testing, etc at my own risk of course. post here or pm or e me - djcheers@djcheers.com


I fully support a plugin that would work with other lighting programs, (its on my wish list too LOL)
but can we start a new thread in the plugin forum about it?
I want THIS thread to hopefully stay somewhat on topic.. LOL
thanx!
 
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