Wondering if anyone in the forum knows of a resource, or possibly a thread here that deals with the proper way in which to utilize and make use
of the massive effects library that is available with VDJ. I'm afraid that alot of guys newer to the DJ game, like myself might have a tendency to
overuse effects. There are a plethora of effects for download on the VDJ site, but no real info on what exactly each one does and how to
properly use a given effect......Just wondering what you guys think.....What are your 2 or 3 "go to" effects to help u transition/ mix into or out
of a track or just make the beat your own.....As always thank you in advance!.... =D
of the massive effects library that is available with VDJ. I'm afraid that alot of guys newer to the DJ game, like myself might have a tendency to
overuse effects. There are a plethora of effects for download on the VDJ site, but no real info on what exactly each one does and how to
properly use a given effect......Just wondering what you guys think.....What are your 2 or 3 "go to" effects to help u transition/ mix into or out
of a track or just make the beat your own.....As always thank you in advance!.... =D
Mensajes Sat 17 Dec 11 @ 7:07 pm
never rape the effects live, really the only effect you should use a bit is the filter and things like the roll effects, and maybe some reverb, but a general rule of thumb I use is if your audience can tell there is an effect being used you shouldn't be using it, effects should be seemlessly blended in with tracks so it sounds like part of the production, a good way to do this is use effects with a wet dry so you can control how wet the effect is and slowly introduce it. And I will almost never put an audio effect like a flanger of phaser on the main track, it sounds horrible and is completely self indulgent..
But honestly for club mixing a good mix at the right time increasing or maintaining the energy is the best way to mix, it's all about smacking the crowd in the face with the new bassline.
But honestly for club mixing a good mix at the right time increasing or maintaining the energy is the best way to mix, it's all about smacking the crowd in the face with the new bassline.
Mensajes Sat 17 Dec 11 @ 7:42 pm
That's a really good question, but as far as I know, there's not a good source of information about them!
Here are my "goto" effects:
TexZK Filter
TexZK Echo Doppler
TexZK Reverb
TexZK Flanger
Backspin
Brake
All of the effects, I have wet/dry control mapped to my jogwheel so I can easily and smoothly get in and out of the effects as Syn just said.
A mix I'll often do is to fade in the new track, whilst fading out the bass on the outgoing track, leave it going for however long, perhaps slowly fading out the treble on the outgoing track too.and then instead of fading out the outgoing track, I'll have echo doppler ready and waiting on the outgoing track, then in the final 3 beats of the mix smoothly turn the wet/dry control from completely dry to completely wet and then the outgoing track just echoes away!
Another trick I'll often do if the incoming song has a very "musical" intro (i.e. not just the beat, so harder to mix in) I'll set the filter to take away everything apart from the lowest part of the kick drum on the incoming track and loop the intro if it's short, then, at the right moment I'll fade in the filtered track whilst fading out the bass on the out going track, leave the mix to run for a while but gradually raise the filter so that you begin to recognise the incoming song, kill the treble on the outgoing track during the mix and time it so that the incoming track starts to become recognisable as the other track is disappearing and then it sounds completely normal a couple of beats after the end of the mix...
Not sure if that's the sort of thing you had in mind, but might be some help if I've explained it clearly!
Like Syn said, it's pretty rare that you'll use an effect purely in the middle of a single track, more just smooth out your transitions and add more variation so it's not just a fade or a cut all of the time.
Here are my "goto" effects:
TexZK Filter
TexZK Echo Doppler
TexZK Reverb
TexZK Flanger
Backspin
Brake
All of the effects, I have wet/dry control mapped to my jogwheel so I can easily and smoothly get in and out of the effects as Syn just said.
A mix I'll often do is to fade in the new track, whilst fading out the bass on the outgoing track, leave it going for however long, perhaps slowly fading out the treble on the outgoing track too.and then instead of fading out the outgoing track, I'll have echo doppler ready and waiting on the outgoing track, then in the final 3 beats of the mix smoothly turn the wet/dry control from completely dry to completely wet and then the outgoing track just echoes away!
Another trick I'll often do if the incoming song has a very "musical" intro (i.e. not just the beat, so harder to mix in) I'll set the filter to take away everything apart from the lowest part of the kick drum on the incoming track and loop the intro if it's short, then, at the right moment I'll fade in the filtered track whilst fading out the bass on the out going track, leave the mix to run for a while but gradually raise the filter so that you begin to recognise the incoming song, kill the treble on the outgoing track during the mix and time it so that the incoming track starts to become recognisable as the other track is disappearing and then it sounds completely normal a couple of beats after the end of the mix...
Not sure if that's the sort of thing you had in mind, but might be some help if I've explained it clearly!
Like Syn said, it's pretty rare that you'll use an effect purely in the middle of a single track, more just smooth out your transitions and add more variation so it's not just a fade or a cut all of the time.
Mensajes Sat 17 Dec 11 @ 8:21 pm
wow....that's alot of help and GREAT advice thanks guys!
Mensajes Sat 17 Dec 11 @ 8:24 pm
I allways use Effects in the middle of a track or to emphasis a build up, i nearly never use them for transitions. So i guess, i'm doing something wrong..............
Mensajes Sun 18 Dec 11 @ 9:36 am
Haha, not of it sounds good! :p
Sounds like a good use provided it's done well, people are expecting a build up, and you make it even more of a build up, so they're serving a musical purpose and not just for the sake of it. :)
Sounds like a good use provided it's done well, people are expecting a build up, and you make it even more of a build up, so they're serving a musical purpose and not just for the sake of it. :)
Mensajes Sun 18 Dec 11 @ 10:49 am