djplick
hello all, i have recently been mentally braking down my game and listening to what everyone has to say. im looking at the next stage of my evelution and its either get a nsf II or start getting a pioneer cdj 2000, i also see some dj's use 2 decks and some swear by 4 decks i have been learning how to use 4 and have problems making clear transitions on 2 but the costs with 4 in cdj is crazy so thought id ask what everyones thoughts are. ill practice more on 2 decks to get them smoother but just like hearing what people have to say
Mensajes Tue 30 Apr 13 @ 12:50 am
groovindj
You'd seriously buy a pair of CDJ-2000s just to use them as controllers for VDJ?
It sounds to me like this "everyone" you've been listening to is a Pioneer fan boy, who thinks that you have to have Pioneer kit to "be a real DJ" or to be taken seriously by your peers (aka Pioneer fan boys!).
What are you using right now, and why do you think you need to "evolve" (or have the Pio boys told you that)?
PS I'm not dissing Pioneer (I have some Pio kit myself) but there are lots of other options out there.
It sounds to me like this "everyone" you've been listening to is a Pioneer fan boy, who thinks that you have to have Pioneer kit to "be a real DJ" or to be taken seriously by your peers (aka Pioneer fan boys!).
What are you using right now, and why do you think you need to "evolve" (or have the Pio boys told you that)?
PS I'm not dissing Pioneer (I have some Pio kit myself) but there are lots of other options out there.
Mensajes Tue 30 Apr 13 @ 4:22 am
Caliente123
Focus on 2 Decks, Not 4. There are very few Djs that would use 4 decks and other djs say 4 is good but, They don't event mix on 4 decks. When it comes to equipment, Buy what you can afford and what is comfortable to use. If you Like pioneer and would like to use 4 decks, Just get a Pioneer DDJ SX Controller. Its a lot cheaper than getting two cdj 2000's & a Mixer.
Mensajes Tue 30 Apr 13 @ 5:34 pm
Bish
I had a similar dilemma (or thought I did) when the new range of Pioneer came out. Do I upgrade my CDJ1000 (timecoded and configured to control 2 decks) to new cdj"s? What controller functions does new cdj's have that I can utilize with VDJ and is it worth it? Then my thoughts widened to do I upgrade my DJM800 as well? Or is now the time to go for all in one controller like DDJ-SX, DENON DN-MC6000 or Vestax etc. A contributing factor to looking for a change is that I definitely wanted to switch to 4 deck mixing.
I found positives and negatives in regard to money needed to be spent, portability, configurability etc. but what it mainly came down to for me is, do I phase out the use of software and go with the inbuilt 'tech' of hardware, or do I concentrate on getting a controller that works well with software? As previously stated, to buy CDJ2000's to mainly use as controllers would seem to me to be excessive $$. And I love my DJM800, so could I leave that on the shelf and go with an all in one controller?
In the midst of this I had a pair of CDJ400's left at my place while the owner went for a holiday, so I gave them a try within my current setup. So glad that I did!
Long story short my setup is now 1X CDJ400 controlling 4 decks and my DJM800 getting a new fader and dial facelift. Saved myself bucket loads of money ($300 as opposed to $1200-$5000) and I'm now learning more about VDJ software re: mapping, effects etc. Putting it into perspective, I started on VDJ 2.1, and I can't believe how in some ways it feels like now I'm only starting to get below scratching the surface on how I can make VDJ = MYVDJ.
I love 4 deck mixing! And yes I press sync as much as I can. Do I care? No! If I have to prove my worth, I can mix from my vinyl to cd's, cdj timecode to vinyl timecode or any configuration of whatever. Hell I can also beatmatch using a on the fly loop from CDJ1000 or the roll effect on my DJM800 to whatever! *stepping off soapbox now*
Anyway, I hope my wall of words sheds some light!
BISH
I found positives and negatives in regard to money needed to be spent, portability, configurability etc. but what it mainly came down to for me is, do I phase out the use of software and go with the inbuilt 'tech' of hardware, or do I concentrate on getting a controller that works well with software? As previously stated, to buy CDJ2000's to mainly use as controllers would seem to me to be excessive $$. And I love my DJM800, so could I leave that on the shelf and go with an all in one controller?
In the midst of this I had a pair of CDJ400's left at my place while the owner went for a holiday, so I gave them a try within my current setup. So glad that I did!
Long story short my setup is now 1X CDJ400 controlling 4 decks and my DJM800 getting a new fader and dial facelift. Saved myself bucket loads of money ($300 as opposed to $1200-$5000) and I'm now learning more about VDJ software re: mapping, effects etc. Putting it into perspective, I started on VDJ 2.1, and I can't believe how in some ways it feels like now I'm only starting to get below scratching the surface on how I can make VDJ = MYVDJ.
I love 4 deck mixing! And yes I press sync as much as I can. Do I care? No! If I have to prove my worth, I can mix from my vinyl to cd's, cdj timecode to vinyl timecode or any configuration of whatever. Hell I can also beatmatch using a on the fly loop from CDJ1000 or the roll effect on my DJM800 to whatever! *stepping off soapbox now*
Anyway, I hope my wall of words sheds some light!
BISH
Mensajes Wed 01 May 13 @ 7:38 am
santd
I use the djm 800 with my ddj wego. I use the audio 8 sound card so I can play on four decks. I love it
Mensajes Wed 01 May 13 @ 6:54 pm
dj ho productions
"With four decks and remix decks it’s possible to layer many things on top of each other. The challenge is this: without compression, great EQ, and proper stems this all quickly becomes way too much audio information to decipher. The end result is almost always master clipping and sonic mud. Just because we can mix 2500 parts together concurrently does not make it a good idea.
Tip: The low end is the frequency spectrum with little room for new visitors. Think of it like a small bathroom – someone has to leave before another person can use the loo. Unless you are using true stems or stripped down parts, it’s generally advisable to not have multiple kicks playing together because they can cancel each other out." Ean Golden.
I will stick to only two decks, as far as equipment goes. If you are going to be using the CDJ"S as controllers, why not go with something cheaper but compatible to the 2000's. I use the Gemini CDJ700's; regardless of how many people bash on Gemini products, I have been using my units for a whole year now without a single glitch, and the best part is, when I'm at home I practice on them, but when in the club I use the Pioneer CDJ2000's, and the feel is almost if not identical.
Tip: The low end is the frequency spectrum with little room for new visitors. Think of it like a small bathroom – someone has to leave before another person can use the loo. Unless you are using true stems or stripped down parts, it’s generally advisable to not have multiple kicks playing together because they can cancel each other out." Ean Golden.
I will stick to only two decks, as far as equipment goes. If you are going to be using the CDJ"S as controllers, why not go with something cheaper but compatible to the 2000's. I use the Gemini CDJ700's; regardless of how many people bash on Gemini products, I have been using my units for a whole year now without a single glitch, and the best part is, when I'm at home I practice on them, but when in the club I use the Pioneer CDJ2000's, and the feel is almost if not identical.
Mensajes Wed 01 May 13 @ 7:12 pm