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Tópico: VDJ8 Mapper Needed For Pioneer DJM-900 Nexus Mixer

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Just as the topic says, I'm in need of a mapper for this mixer. Haven't been able to use it at full capability with VDJ8. I'm weary lol, Any help will be appreciated.
 
Mensajes Tue 17 Jun 14 @ 4:01 am
Have you looked at the mapper in the plug in section?
 
Yep, I've been using the Pioneer DJM-900 in 3-1-2-4 with VDJ7xx but the faders/crossfader are linked to the headphone cue if I try to use it with VDJ8.
 
List what you would like those controls to do, and maybe someone will help you with the mappings.
 
I would be interested in finding a mapper for the DJM 900 NXS as well...
 
For the most part Everything works fine (gains, eq, ect.). The only problem is the headphones cue level is linked to the faders and crossfader. For example, when you crossfade channel 3 or 1 to channel 2 or 4 then you will notice that the led lights or channels 3 & 1 will fade as well. Then if you try to cue your next track on those channels you can't hear anything in the headphones. The only way to hear what you are cueing is to have the channel faders all the way up as well as having the crossfader not at a full closed position.
 
That's because it's a real hardware mixer - If you have MIDI mapped the volume sliders and crossfader to control volume and crossfader in VirtualDJ, then the sound will be faded out by VirtualDJ's internal software mixer before it reaches the channels of your hardware mixer, so you will not hear anything in your headphones when using the hardware PFL on the mixer to listen to the channel(s) that have been faded out by VirtualDJ.

To avoid this in VirtualDJ v7, use fake_* actions instead such as fake_volume, fake_crossfader, fake_eq_high, etc. The knobs/sliders will move on-screen but will have no effect on VirtualDJ's software mixer, allowing the hardware mixer to function normally.

In VirtualDJ v8, these actions are depreciated. If mapping in VirtualDJ v8, you should use the normal actions volume, crossfader, eq_high, etc. and then add ONINIT to the mapper and map this to fake_mixer on & fake_eq on - This will turn the normal mixer and EQ actions into fake ones that have no effect on the sound in VirtualDJ's software mixer.
 
Support staff wrote :
That's because it's a real hardware mixer - If you have MIDI mapped the volume sliders and crossfader to control volume and crossfader in VirtualDJ, then the sound will be faded out by VirtualDJ's internal software mixer before it reaches the channels of your hardware mixer, so you will not hear anything in your headphones when using the hardware PFL on the mixer to listen to the channel(s) that have been faded out by VirtualDJ.

To avoid this in VirtualDJ v7, use fake_* actions instead such as fake_volume, fake_crossfader, fake_eq_high, etc. The knobs/sliders will move on-screen but will have no effect on VirtualDJ's software mixer, allowing the hardware mixer to function normally.

In VirtualDJ v8, these actions are depreciated. If mapping in VirtualDJ v8, you should use the normal actions volume, crossfader, eq_high, etc. and then add ONINIT to the mapper and map this to fake_mixer on & fake_eq on - This will turn the normal mixer and EQ actions into fake ones that have no effect on the sound in VirtualDJ's software mixer.


I haven't remapped the original 7xx mapper. When I open it in VDJ8 I'm not sure that I seen any "fake" commands. I remember the crossfader was mapped as Crossfader = crossfader. And are you saying that if the current mapper has "fake" commands then eliminate the word "fake" to allow it to operate properly with VDJ8? And are you saying I/we need to add a new line map command: OMINIT = fake_mixer on & fake_eq on?
 
In v7, fake_ commands are used on a MIDI capable mixer to allow the on-screen controls to move without actually controlling VirtualDJ's internal software mixer and affecting the sound before it reaches the real hardware mixer.

In v8, these individual fake_ commands are depreciated and will not work as expected. In v8, you must map each knob/slider to its normal action (volume, crossfader, eq_high, eq_mid, eq_low, etc.) and then add the ONINIT key (This is executed when the mapper is initialised) and map it to fake_mixer on & fake_eq on to turn the appropriate actions into fake ones.

There are also other fake actions that can be enabled in v8 depending on what knobs/sliders your mixer has mapped, e.g: fake_filter, fake_gain, etc.

If you need to use these, simply add them to the ONINIT key using & between each action, e.g: fake_mixer on & fake_eq on & fake_gain on & fake_filter on
 
Support staff wrote :
In v7, fake_ commands are used on a MIDI capable mixer to allow the on-screen controls to move without actually controlling VirtualDJ's internal software mixer and affecting the sound before it reaches the real hardware mixer.

In v8, these individual fake_ commands are depreciated and will not work as expected. In v8, you must map each knob/slider to its normal action (volume, crossfader, eq_high, eq_mid, eq_low, etc.) and then add the ONINIT key (This is executed when the mapper is initialised) and map it to fake_mixer on & fake_eq on to turn the appropriate actions into fake ones.

There are also other fake actions that can be enabled in v8 depending on what knobs/sliders your mixer has mapped, e.g: fake_filter, fake_gain, etc.

If you need to use these, simply add them to the ONINIT key using & between each action, e.g: fake_mixer on & fake_eq on & fake_gain on & fake_filter on

Thank you, I will give it a try!
 
Support staff wrote :
In v7, fake_ commands are used on a MIDI capable mixer to allow the on-screen controls to move without actually controlling VirtualDJ's internal software mixer and affecting the sound before it reaches the real hardware mixer.

In v8, these individual fake_ commands are depreciated and will not work as expected. In v8, you must map each knob/slider to its normal action (volume, crossfader, eq_high, eq_mid, eq_low, etc.) and then add the ONINIT key (This is executed when the mapper is initialised) and map it to fake_mixer on & fake_eq on to turn the appropriate actions into fake ones.

There are also other fake actions that can be enabled in v8 depending on what knobs/sliders your mixer has mapped, e.g: fake_filter, fake_gain, etc.

If you need to use these, simply add them to the ONINIT key using & between each action, e.g: fake_mixer on & fake_eq on & fake_gain on & fake_filter on


If I dont want to fake it ?
I have problem with my DJM2000 and can´t get my channels right in order 3124, and I would love to fix that and use my mixer for broadcasting on Radio !
 
freppa wrote :
If I dont want to fake it ?


Simply delete the mixer related mappings for volume, EQ, etc. With a real hardware mixer, you don't really need to have them moving on screen anyway because you have a real mixer in front of you and you can see the position of the real knobs by simply looking at them on the real mixer.

If you mean that you wish to control the software mixer in VDJ from a hardware mixer, then this is not practical with a real hardware mixer. First of all, you will have the headphone pre-listening problem because the sound is faded out in the software before it reaches the external hardware mixer. Secondly, you will have the problem of gains and EQ being applied twice - First in software and then again in hardware.

If you wish to use software mixing, then you should use a software mixer-style MIDI controller. The Pioneer DDJ-SX for example works as a software MIDI mixer when using DJ software but also has hardware mixing capabilities for using other sources (E.g: iPod as backup.)

freppa wrote :
I have problem with my DJM2000 and can´t get my channels right in order 3124, and I would love to fix that and use my mixer for broadcasting on Radio !


You must configure the channels correctly in your sound setup and then connect them to the correct channels of the mixer.

You may also need to change the MIDI definition file (If it has one) to change the associated deck numbers. If it's just a simple MIDI mapping, you can change the deck number in front of each mapping, e.g: deck 1 volume -> deck 3 volume

NOTE: If you are broadcasting with an external mixer, then you will also need to bear in mind that your pre-listening will be audible unless you use audio loop back. This is because the mixing is occurring outside of VirtualDJ after the signal has left its internal software mixer. A software MIDI mixer is the best and simplest option for broadcasting. Please see http://www.virtualdj.com/wiki/Recording%20your%20set%20or%20broadcasting%20when%20using%20an%20external%20DJ%20mixer.html
 
I also am looking to find a mapper or a fix as well for my djm-900 as well as my Dennon S3700's.
Serato live has completely failed me, so I'm looking at new products, and its ether this or Traktor. So I guess I have one month to test this product. I'm using the vdj-7.
Having issues navigating this site tho :/ could I get a point in the right direction please and thank you in advance.
Anyways, I'm going to go and play with my new toy :D
May the grinds be with you!
 
4utonomou5 wrote :
I also am looking to find a mapper or a fix as well for my djm-900 as well as my Dennon S3700's.
Serato live has completely failed me, so I'm looking at new products, and its ether this or Traktor. So I guess I have one month to test this product. I'm using the vdj-7.
Having issues navigating this site tho :/ could I get a point in the right direction please and thank you in advance.
Anyways, I'm going to go and play with my new toy :D
May the grinds be with you!


My DJM-900 is now working. Have been using it for the last few months.
 
jeffrey tedder wrote :
4utonomou5 wrote :
I also am looking to find a mapper or a fix as well for my djm-900 as well as my Dennon S3700's.
Serato live has completely failed me, so I'm looking at new products, and its ether this or Traktor. So I guess I have one month to test this product. I'm using the vdj-7.
Having issues navigating this site tho :/ could I get a point in the right direction please and thank you in advance.
Anyways, I'm going to go and play with my new toy :D
May the grinds be with you!


My DJM-900 is now working. Have been using it for the last few months.


Okay, thanx mate. Been a bit busy to check it out. Now to see if they support my Denon controllers.
 


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