djzim4
I was wondering if I could get some opinions.
I have been Djing for the past 10 years and I have always used Power Amps to run my gear. I have been thinking about switching to a powered box mixer. I am a mobile DJ and want to make my gear as light as possible. I am not a fan of powered speakers, even though my sub is powered.
I was looking at purchasing the Behringer 1280S Powered Mixer.
What would your opinion be on powering my gear?
djzim4
I have been Djing for the past 10 years and I have always used Power Amps to run my gear. I have been thinking about switching to a powered box mixer. I am a mobile DJ and want to make my gear as light as possible. I am not a fan of powered speakers, even though my sub is powered.
I was looking at purchasing the Behringer 1280S Powered Mixer.
What would your opinion be on powering my gear?
djzim4
Mensajes Tue 04 Mar 08 @ 7:09 pm
DJ Curt
Is there a reason why you don't like powered speakers? If you buy good name brand powered speakers, they put out good sound and are pretty reliable. Being internally bi-amped, they have a certain amount of built-in redundancy. You won't lose a whole speaker cabinet if they fail, just a horn or driver on one side. We use both Mackie and JBL powered speakers, and have pounded them hard for over 5 years with very little maintenance. Your equipment selection is very limited if you use a powered mixer. Just curious.
Curt
Curt
Mensajes Tue 04 Mar 08 @ 9:16 pm
A Man and His Music
You have got to be kidding, if you want to use that amp for anything other than microphones. That is what it is made for. I will admit that I am not a fan of Behringer products, period. I don't think they have ever had an original idea, and all their products are copies. If you want an amplifier, why not look at companies that specialize in making great amps. Try Crown, QSC, Crest or budget amps like Peavy or Yamaha. Would you use a guitar head to run your system, than why a mic head?
Mensajes Tue 04 Mar 08 @ 10:51 pm
Paz75
actually, bi-amped is not being redundant. the purpose is that harmonics cross between multiple drivers on the same FET path. bi-amping merely means each driver (or set of) has its own dedicated amp. blowing the amp means you loose a driver. fortunately the driver is pruposely underclassed to the amp so normally you'd loose the driver first instead of the amp. but if you put the wrong 240V into a 110V circuit, the driver should be fine, the amp's diodes and FETs will blow.
but i agree with both posts above.
a) Behringer sucks balls
b) why not use powered speakers?
on b), you should consider your usage first. powered speakers work for small applications, not recommended for big installations as you will start having power problems and its harder to snake power to various parts of a gig instead of speaker wire
but i agree with both posts above.
a) Behringer sucks balls
b) why not use powered speakers?
on b), you should consider your usage first. powered speakers work for small applications, not recommended for big installations as you will start having power problems and its harder to snake power to various parts of a gig instead of speaker wire
Mensajes Wed 05 Mar 08 @ 4:04 am
djzim4
So are you saying I should stick to my powered amp? I have killer Yamaha speakers, so I don't want to move to powered speakers.
Do you guys have any suggestions on what I should look at power wise. Are there any Powered Boxes that would cut it?
Any help would be great.
Do you guys have any suggestions on what I should look at power wise. Are there any Powered Boxes that would cut it?
Any help would be great.
Mensajes Thu 06 Mar 08 @ 9:13 pm
Paz75
what size gigs do you play and do you want a modular setup? by modular i mean do you have 12 speakers and bring a third or half of them for varying size gigs? powered monitors IMHO are the best option for lightening the load. in a way it doesnt because 6 powered monitors in total is heavier than 6 unpowered and 2 amps. but the saving grace is carrying two units less and less cables since you no longer need actual speaker cable.
they come in varying classes as well. mackie makes some nice stuff. however if you are more concerned about sound quality and total air movement, you are best to stay completely away from powered and accept that you have a roadie life that cannot concern about how much gear to bring.
for un-powered i really like community loudspeakers because they are mostly nearfield class and can be used to setup gigs with that 'its loud and sounds good but i can still speak to you at 4 feet away'. shame, most people dont know the brand or dont know shit about sound so will probably bash them.
ive done several gigs with the SBS series along with L'Accoustics amps and the setup is to die for...
the catalog
http://www.community.chester.pa.us/files/catalogs/2008CommunityCatalog.pdf
check out the pole mounted SLS920 and SBS25. GREAT sound. They are affordable as well. Like I said its not a brand that the whole world relates to so you actually pay for the unit rather than a monster reputation. but they are moving up in the world as well. around where i live, every moron runs a sound crew and they all use JBL. I dont know how many times ive argued with these fools that JBL EON are not for parties with dance music... and i was never impressed with the installation based VP series either, but they could be better. its all to do with positioning which is an art understood by very few crews these days.
they come in varying classes as well. mackie makes some nice stuff. however if you are more concerned about sound quality and total air movement, you are best to stay completely away from powered and accept that you have a roadie life that cannot concern about how much gear to bring.
for un-powered i really like community loudspeakers because they are mostly nearfield class and can be used to setup gigs with that 'its loud and sounds good but i can still speak to you at 4 feet away'. shame, most people dont know the brand or dont know shit about sound so will probably bash them.
ive done several gigs with the SBS series along with L'Accoustics amps and the setup is to die for...
the catalog
http://www.community.chester.pa.us/files/catalogs/2008CommunityCatalog.pdf
check out the pole mounted SLS920 and SBS25. GREAT sound. They are affordable as well. Like I said its not a brand that the whole world relates to so you actually pay for the unit rather than a monster reputation. but they are moving up in the world as well. around where i live, every moron runs a sound crew and they all use JBL. I dont know how many times ive argued with these fools that JBL EON are not for parties with dance music... and i was never impressed with the installation based VP series either, but they could be better. its all to do with positioning which is an art understood by very few crews these days.
Mensajes Thu 06 Mar 08 @ 11:01 pm
Paz75
just doing some browsing, and LAccoustics have 2 new self-powered model 8XT and 12XT. Based on their reputation they will not be cheap, but they will be decent. i guess if you are mobile, you will not be interested in line-arrays which is what they do best. hmm, i wonder if there is such thing as a self-powered line-array? hehe, talk about overkill
Mensajes Thu 06 Mar 08 @ 11:25 pm
djspaceyuk
dont touch behringer i had 3 mixing desks fail on me got a phonic now 1000 watt been excellent for 3 years very loud!!!
Mensajes Fri 07 Mar 08 @ 7:55 am
Charlie Wilson
What you need is a 1U rackmount mixer like the C3X in the picture (3rd one down) and a 2U amp, get a 3U case made and your sorted. you can plug a midi controller into it via phono still. It has 4 mic channels and fx
PS dont get a 1U amp like the one in the picture it only lasted 4 months before it stopped working, I am now having a 7U case made so that I can fit my 2U amp.
PS dont get a 1U amp like the one in the picture it only lasted 4 months before it stopped working, I am now having a 7U case made so that I can fit my 2U amp.
Mensajes Fri 07 Mar 08 @ 3:43 pm