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So, im a no license user myself.On this board. not on my pc. i visit a friend on a regular basis to dj together. he owns VDJ but has no internet. I have internet, but no VDJ. If problems appear i check the forums at my house, go over to his house and try to get rid of the problems. This is going on for years now. This way i´m very familiar with VDJ and its functions. But whenever i post something on this forum people order me to register. But i cant cause i dont own vdj. People here wont help NLU´s because they think they all use cracked versions. Even if someone is using the trial they get flamed for beeing NLU´s. Atomix Staff members keep stating that every NLU is a potencial legal user, therefor they shall get the help they need in a polite way. But i gets on my nerves that all i hear is: register your serial otherwise you wont get help. Coming straight from the other users.

As a NLU, am i allowed to answer questions regarding the software? Is my help appriciated? i know alot about vdj just by using it time to time, so may i share my knowledge?

And please, dont answer to this post like: if you like vdj -->purchase it. i cant afford it, also there is no need to do so cause whenever i want to use vdj i visit my friend :)

So, may i get a clear statement by a Atomix Staff member if help is wanted or not. And maybe there can be a new status for users like me. Seeing the No license User under my name makes me feel like a criminal. I think that a new system is needed, that shows that one is using a trial, pro version, or is just registered to the boards. That way i feel more secure of beeing stated as a crack user.

I get more answers like : register your serial, than usefull help. And i know im not the only one.

So please, Atomix, tell us what you´re company thinks about that. peace
 
Mensajes Thu 18 Dec 08 @ 11:14 am
well im not part of the atomix company but ur help by is appreciated i help Non license userz..therez only some people that dnt like helping NLU....JimmyB likes to help anybody out and so do i and many other userzz.its just certain people that think like that..so to me u sharing wut u know can be helpful to me bkuz i can learn more from somebody else learn new tricks and fuse them with mines to get a better experience on DJING..

SONIDO 1902
DJ TELEY!!
 
greatmesk wrote :
Seeing the No license User under my name makes me feel like a criminal.


You shouldn't mate, NLU are a valuable members of this (our) community, One of the main rules of this forum is to treat everybody equally, and with respeact, some users do forget this, and are rude at times, which I have seen.

NLU are most welcome in my book.

@Sonido 1902 thanks for the kind words.
 
sonido, im beggining to like you :) I noticed you and others like jimmyb and sirkitbreaker are up on point if it comes to help NLU´s. In the name off everyone you guys have helped, thanks. But the main point is still that i feel like there is no clear statement from the staff, how NLU´s shall be treatened. There has to be a reason that so often pro-users dont help but talk bad about the NLU´s. I know for sure that there are few pro-users that where using cracked version, therefor its funny how they act like they are the truth.
 
I'm not a Atomix Staff member. However, I think quite honestly that no one here wants to hang out you or other NLUs (No Licence User) at the forums.

The fact that about 95% of NLUs actually use a cracked version, is not something new. Therefore, the employees, and legitimate users ("why should I pay when ALL others do not have to?") encourage all NLUs to register a serial to show that they are actually "in the game".

Since your friend has a legitimate license, why not create a user that you can use together? It will be easier for you to get help, and YOU do not have to feel criminal. ;) (Actually, I'm the criminal one. I discovered VirtualDJ trough a cracked version ages ago (!) But that is another exciting story with lots of virus in lol)

The teamers will usually only ask the users who have been registered for a long time, or asking for help to features not available in the trial version, to register. I've rarely seen demo users getting flamed because they're not have a license.


At last, my personal opinion is that YES! Your help is appriciated. As all other's :)
 
i posted about this awhile back and got some good answers... the main point being is that sometime your answers will be just ' register' cause that feature is handled in an upgrade..... i do beleive (not sure) we have had some good conversations here and honestly i do look at pro-user vs NLU but not for the reason you think. I just lets me know where you atand. I was using VDJ with my totalcontrol well before i registered here. point being i registered and upgraded cause i choose to use VDJ at my gigs and the club i work at. So again you have to look at it like this .... forums are forums you cannot trust half of what you read anyways (wait that may be a lie) ;)
 
 
@marcellodj, is it possible to create a new account with his serial even if hes allready registered here? Im not sure, but i think he had to register his serial years ago. I will ask asap.

@sirkitbreaker

That is why i feel like there should be a new kind of forum user. Not just NLU vs pro-user. Maybe a forum-use-only status or something like that. For sure you cant take everything here as full truth cause you never know when someone is stating hes using a demo and in reality hes using a crack.

A "no license user" status always indicates that someone is using the program without a license. That teminology is plain wrong for someone like me.

So, if this topic has allready been discused, what is the statement from the staff?? Is a new status possible?

thx to all of you, peace
 
@ kradcliffe, when i click the links i get : Sorry, you don't have the necessary accreditations to view this page.
are only pro-users allowed to view certain sites in the general discussion??
 
So your friend has no Internet? Does he use fire for light in his cave? Whoa look out a T-Rex

Ah I'm just kddinn with ya!

Happy Holidays
 
:D :D haha good one. happy holidays to you too
he does live on trees ;) cant afford a cave.... damn real estate :D
 
Non-Licensed Users (NLU) -- are welcomed members to the forums and 'helpful' information is always welcomed and encouraged.

As it has been stated in this thread (and several others) that the issues surrounding NLU posts is when the posts are from people that are clearly using an illegal version of the software and yet expect and demand help from the loyal licensed users.

This creates an effect in that you have some that stay on a 'consistent' level of how they handle posts of NLU in a positive tone, perceived negative tone, and yes sometime purely negative.

However; when NLU posts are made sometimes they are done when people have no clue about registering their serial and in order for them to get to 1. Better information or 2. Updated releases to solve their problem -- they need to register.

There is no 'easy' way to ask people to register other then to say "Please register your serial" or "Please register your software". In either case 1 of 3 things will happen.

1. They register and validates they have a license.
2. They honestly state they have the demo or using a friends system ( like in your case )
3. They get highly defensive and you then know they are using an illegal version.

As for your case, I think you had stated well enough in another thread yesterday that you were someone that used a friends system. If you think you were harassed or somehow mistreated by someone, I think you read to much into it - but you can send me a PM and I will address it privately - if you like.

But, you can't fault the community for wanting to ensure that those making a living by using a crack/illegal copy are confronted. The community as a whole have invested interest in the product and just want others to do the same.


Your help is greatly appreciated as well as other Non-Licensed Users.
 
greatmesk wrote :
@marcellodj, is it possible to create a new account with his serial even if hes allready registered here? Im not sure, but i think he had to register his serial years ago. I will ask asap.

I think the rule is one user on each serial. But your friend may change the password on the existing user (if he won't share the old with you).

greatmesk wrote :
@ kradcliffe, when i click the links i get : Sorry, you don't have the necessary accreditations to view this page.
are only pro-users allowed to view certain sites in the general discussion??

Certain posts are leveled to registered users only. This is for protection of contact information (and other reasons too I suppose)
 
@greatmesk, whether you are registered user or not that shouldn't be an obstacle for you or anyone else receiving help from these boards, let's face it we are all forum user's no matter how many stars are next to a name either giving advice or receiving it. This is a community of DJ's helping fellow DJ's or those starting out down that road, it's what these forum's are built on. You may find that an answer to a question is not replied to immediately for any amount of reasons, most obvious the person that has your answer is away from the boards which is why you may have to wait awhile before getting it.

And yes you and anyone else that comes to these forums are encouraged to participate in them, we are a community, a family, and anybody that flames someone else is frowned upon, like all good family's we all close ranks together as all family's would. When you see a NLU being asked to register there copy more often then not it is probably from a new or inexperienced user, how do they know whether someone is using VDJ at a venue or are in a situation similar to yourself, they don't, only with experience and a little guidance will they learn to stop doing it.

If you would feel more comfortable on the forums as a licensed user why not as has been suggested get your friend to register his copy and you use his log in, now how far this is possible would have to come from a more experienced user than myself.

Now go register.... LOL
 
greatmesk wrote :
@ kradcliffe, when i click the links i get : Sorry, you don't have the necessary accreditations to view this page.
are only pro-users allowed to view certain sites in the general discussion??


No, those threads were raised up to Pro level viewing only. This forum has set levels for viewing that are sometimes raised for different reasons, like not wanting to offend Non-Licensed Users. As CSTOLL stated, if you feel you have been treated un-fairly contact him. Some of the users here will not help an NLU ever, while others are more than willing to help everyone.

I bet after you have been around for a while and become more recognized you will find a warmer response to your posts.....
 
marcellodj wrote :
greatmesk wrote :
@marcellodj, is it possible to create a new account with his serial even if hes allready registered here? Im not sure, but i think he had to register his serial years ago. I will ask asap.

I think the rule is one user on each serial. But your friend may change the password on the existing user (if he won't share the old with you).


A serial can only be register to 1 user account. If 2 people want to share that account -- then each take the risk they create by having 2 users access the same account. HIGHLY discouraged and not a good practice.
 
Everybody is of course welcome here... :)

As for no lincense users, that term is pretty exact.. Its a user without a license.

And a license for a program (microsoft, adobe, or what else..) can of course not be shared...
A software license is a personal licence to use the software..


of the no license users here, there is a wide range... from new demo users, to long term crack users.
We do hope most or many, will go legal, and buy their own personal version, and support the future development, that we give back to you all for free (free upgrades etc)

But that is a personal choice, and everyone is welcome at the forum .. to ask questions, get help or hang out ;)
 
Aint it possible to create some new statuses on the board? I never felt offended by anyone on the boards cause they dont know me or the circumstances of my VDJ-usage. Its sure everyone is feeling like a family here, i do too and i would not want anybody to use a crack. I understand that many users here feel the same and treat NLU´s with silk-gloves. Myself wouldnt want to help a crack user, but you never know cause it only says NLU.

To avoid that i would suggest some new statuses that the user can choose, like forum-only-user, trial-user or something like that. This way it indicates that im not owning VDJ or a trial or a crack. Just to make ME feel on the safe side and get respected more.

Besides VDJ, i think this board is awesome if you look for controller information, dj-stuff like the records that are hot, fellow dj stories and so much more that has nothing to do with vdj. I dont know, but there has to be solution that everybody is happy with. peace
 
greatmesk wrote :
To avoid that i would suggest some new statuses that the user can choose, like forum-only-user, trial-user or something like that. This way it indicates that im not owning VDJ or a trial or a crack. Just to make ME feel on the safe side and get respected more.


This has been the standard since the AtomixMP3 forums.

As a couple others have stated -- the more you show yourself around the forums you will become known and your status will not matter.

You already started doing so by this post ...
 
thanks, i highly appriciate it. To a better future, greater releases and worldpeace. cheers and feliz navidad
 
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