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Tópico: Djs Then and Djs Now

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Mensajes Fri 30 Apr 10 @ 4:12 pm
lame. article thrown together so they could have advertising all around it.
not even current information.
if you really want a then and now comparison hit up wikipedia.
 
wildcountryclub wrote :
lame. article thrown together so they could have advertising all around it.
not even current information.
if you really want a then and now comparison hit up wikipedia.


Its not that bad........alot of what its saying is true, its just that it happened about 5/10 years ago, lol. As far as djing software it has changed the game. Kids dont even have to figure out thier own BPM's or go diggin, key music by ear, I could go on and on but I'm sure you get my drift. As far as trusting Wikipedia, hahaaa. I cant even use DOT COM's for assignments in class.
 
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As far as trusting Wikipedia, hahaaa. I cant even use DOT COM's for assignments in class.


Wikipedia is actually as accurate as any print Encyclopedia, There have been a few case studies about this already. Hit up a google search
 
DJ Marcel_1 wrote :
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As far as trusting Wikipedia, hahaaa. I cant even use DOT COM's for assignments in class.


Wikipedia is actually as accurate as any print Encyclopedia, There have been a few case studies about this already. Hit up a google search



Tell my professors that, lol.
 
The article does have some interesting statements, but the question now is, what is harder? Obviously one would say vinyl but you all know how far it has been since the 80's with programs such as frutiy loops and etc to add sounds and edits to all music and then still "remix it live". Just something to ponder
 
What has changed is that ,Just about anyone can be a dj these days. If you look on the web, you will find a book called DJ iing for Dummies.. WTF..
 
Caliente123 wrote :
What has changed is that ,Just about anyone can be a dj these days. If you look on the web, you will find a book called DJ iing for Dummies.. WTF..


Lmfao!! I saw that thing and about feel out right there, hahahaaa!!
 
Caliente123 wrote :
What has changed is that ,Just about anyone can be a dj these days. If you look on the web, you will find a book called DJ iing for Dummies.. WTF..


You mean just about anyone can CALL themselves a Dj these days....which has been true throughout time, anyone could always CALL themselves a DJ....the only difference now it that it is much CHEAPER to get the gear/media to be able to CALL yourself a Dj.

Even today it is just as hard to be a GOOD DJ because the tools you use have NEVER determined whether one was a good or bad Dj. It has ALWAY been about the psychology of reading your crowd, knowing your room, your programming skills, song timing, pacing the crowd, picking your mix in/out points, rotating the floor, mic skills, etc. that have determined whether you were a good or bad Dj. No matter whether you use two tin cans, string for speakers, a bicycle wheel for a platter and nails for needles or whether you use a quantum computer if you are good you will be good on either and if your are bad you will be bad on either and no equipment in the world can change that (yet).

A perfect example is a Dj I know in a town north of Phoenx call Prescott who uses MixMeister.....while it has an auto beat find and match for mixing, #(1) it is simply not consistant enough in find the beats properly about 30% of the time but he doesn't care that thise mixes sound like train wrecks, #(2) it NEVER selects the proper mix in/out points and he doesn't care vocals frequently overlap and #(3) the guy can't read a crowd to save his life so he never has proper floor/room rotation and his programming flow isn't worth beans so even though he is using the most advanced "automix" program on the planet he still sounds like crap 90% of the time!
 
I gotta say, I do love the digital age, especially with the Hercules RMX, my Mac, and an external hard drive.
 
I don't know if that article was written by someone trying to "dummy it down" for people that don't know anything or if they are like many other people writing articles on the web and are just talking because someone will listen. From what I can tell I think they don't know much about the business and are trying to impress somebody with very generic statements.

I think dj-e-lectric nailed it on the head. Equipment is cheap enough that anyone can call themselves a DJ and go out and get a job. The true professionals make it look easy enough that everyone thinks they can do it and have no fear about trying. But, when they get in front of a crowd and find that they can only fill the dance floor a few times per night, they realize that it's not so easy. Reading the crowd and knowing how to react to them and anticipate what they need next is the true measure of a DJ. We just have a new set of tools at our disposal. That's it. The automatic mixing available in some software programs (including VDJ) is cold and mechanical and cannot replace talent.
 
Another thing now.. You dont have to go to record shop and buy 12 inch vinyls or cds. You can either download from a record pool or Get free music from many legal websites. Just a click and save without leaving the house.
 
Ya, it's waaay easier to get into the DJ thing nowadays, especially if you already own a laptop, that's half the start-up cost right there.
 
The digital era is nice, Up to date music is very easy to get. But you can't download skills!!!
 
djing now a days is like the car wash. in the old days it took time and had a human touch . now its all done by computer
 
tycoonentertainmentcanada wrote :
djing now a days is like the car wash. in the old days it took time and had a human touch . now its all done by computer


I wish people would quit claiming "it's all done by computers". Yes the computer takes some of the techincal drudgery out of the equation, but the psychology and the skill and the experience are still what makes up a good or bad Dj.

As of yet (someday with quantum computers and holograms maybe) there is not a computer on the planet I know of that can read a crowd and pick out an appropriate song, select proper in and out mix points, select which effects the crowd will feel or think is noise, appropriately know when to do that birthday shout out, make fun of the guy with "white man's disease" still trying to do the Vanilla Ice Dance, filter out the good request from the bad, find a dance tune that the manager thinks is rock to appease him and his buddies without wrecking your dance floor, rotate the floor appropriatley to get more drink sales and NOT burn out your crowd too early, get the phone number from the hot Thai chick that has been eyeing you all night .....need I go on!

Why do I pay my CPA $150 an hour to do my taxes when the computer does it all, a lawyer makes $250+ per hour but all his papers are printed out by the computer, anyone can be a surgeon because the computer runs the laser for him.....wake up and realize no matter what the profession is computers are TOOLS used by the PROFESSIONAL and NOT a replacement for the professional!
 
Another well put statement by DJ Electric!
 
DJRudeDoGG wrote :
Another well put statement by DJ Electric!


Once in awhile I get inspired!
 


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