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Hi all, anyone know if I can use this to lower the output volume of my NS6 without making the meters useless?

That would indeed be wonderful.

Thanks!
 
Mensajes Sat 17 Nov 12 @ 9:40 pm
Just tested it but it doesn't work. The meters are affected by it.
 
I don't have an ns6, but just so it's clear to others, how does using the headroom feature make the meters useless?
 
Yeah fair question.

The NS6 is way too loud with powered speakers in an indoor home environment. So I have the NS6 turned way down but then the meters don't show any activity.
 
Why not just turn the speaker volume down and turn up the volume on your NS6?? Or turn down the master on your NS6 and turn up your gains. This is DJ 101 stuff... just sayin'
 
Oh please, mate I've been djing since you were probably in diapers, so cut the veiled ego boost.

Answer to number one is that the powered speakers are barely on to use have the ns6 master up loud enough for the meters to register and even then they only just show. I'd like the amps in the speakers to do the boosting of the signal rather than the ns6 and was hoping the headroom thing would do the job.

Number 2 is even more simple, the ns6 only has master meters so the question is null and void.

Next time you ask a question try it without the snide remarks eh......just sayin'
 
All I heard was "derpity derp derp". Find a happy medium between your master, gains, and speaker volume... figure it out, it's not rocket science. And so what if your master meter isn't showing while your playing at home?... try using your ears! You're just one of those guys who asks questions for the sake of asking questions. And for the record I've been DJing 30 years but like every other goof on these forums you played the "I've been DJing since you were in diapers" card.
 
Yes Sir Señor awesome!!!

It's so obvious now that I should find a balance between these things like I have already done. Why o why would I have tried to see if the headroom feature gave me other options, what was I thinking. Thank god you're here to be a an egotistical toss


Although I did get a giggle out of the "derpty derp"
 
So I guess I wasn't in diapers when you started DJing eh?
 
That remains to be seen. If your story is true I doubt you'd need the ego boost in the form of little snide jabs rather than a friendly discussion. So I'm not buying it.

I honestly don't get why people insist on talking like that online.
 
Don't expect a lot of help on this topic because it isn't a "problem". The only problem is (like most DJs) you don't know how to adjust gains and volume settings properly. Dude, you've got channel faders, gains, a master volume, volume control on your speakers and now VDJ has added a headroom setting option. If you can't figure out the sweet spot with all those options at your disposal then I don't know what to tell you. There's no magic "set-the-volume-to-where-I-like-it" button.
 
Why wouldn't I try to get it the way I like it? You are just being ridiculous now. If there is no purpose to this then why do the Pioneer DJM series have a post master override of the back of the unit? It allows us to control the signal going to speakers while keeping all meters at optimal settings.

You are right that its not a MAJOR problem of course, I've gotten by without it since I stopped using those mixers, but why should that discount me from seeing if the new headroom feature gave me this ability back? And why cause a verbal spat over it?

You would do well to reevaluate the way you interact with people.


At any rate, the headroom feature didn't do this, although its great to have in certain situations either way I'm sure, so I'm out of this 'discussion'. So feel free to make another statement that serves no other purpose than to inflate your sense of self, but I'm out.
 
Ok, take care juicebox.
 
You guys are killing me. Like watching tennis....two thumbs up
 
I'll admit I got quite a few laughs out of this post, but then again, I can find humor anywhere. I just sent money to your local pubs, so you both can have a drink on me. So, your NS6 is hot? I don't have this unit, but from your response, I gather it does not have gains for each channels? What is your auto gain set to? What are the other NS6 users doing?

Ok, I just looked at the NS6, and it does have gains. So maybe I don't understand your issue. Are your meters clipping, even if you lower the gains? Or, you lower the gains, and the meters stop moving?
 
Well I'm certainly glad some people got a chuckle out of it :)

I'll try to explain better.

The speaker I have set up in my 'room' are way to powerful for that room, so to be able to see any activity on the meters on the ns6 I have to have the speakers barely (and I really mean that, a fraction of a nudge on the speaker volume is e difference between comfortably loud and deafening) on. It's really not a huge deal, but when I used to have a DJM mixer set up there it has a post fader master override on the back so I could have more play with the speaker volume while still having all faders (channel and master) on the mixer at optimal values. Because the ns6 lacks this I either have to have the speakers as described earlier or have them up and the ns6 down so far that I can not see anything on the master (or the channels I guess, but that would be less ideal). Like I said, its not the end of the world by any means, but when I read while at work about the headroom feature I posted this thread out of curiosity if that was how it would function. When I got home I tested it and it did not function that way, and I thought I'd post that for reference. I had thought that would be the end of it :)

Ciao

Edit

I should add that one the problems with the second option I described is that the master volume on the ns6 is easily knocked, especially if the room is darkish, and that can be very painfully loud.

Also, the reason I have speakers there that are way to powerful is because we use them for outdoor events. It's kinda rare I play at home anymore so wasn't too keen to buy another set just for that.
 
Surely the powered speakers have a gain control?

If you can't get it low enough then you need to get less powerful speakers to match the venue.

Can't see how this is an issue with VDJ if your rig is simply overpowered for the job?

Keith
 
Never anywhere did I state its a problem with VDJ.
Show me where I even remotely implied such a thing.

Yes they are too powerful for my ROOM, not for gigs, as I wrote.

And yes of course they have gain control, which is why I wrote that I have to have them all the way down for the meters on the ns6 be usable (ie, the master up high enough for them to register).
But then the slightest adjustment is very very significant.


Seriously, are you guys @$&£ing with me?
I just wrote about every point you made in my last post explaining the situation.

I also said, repeatedly thought out my posts, that's its not a big deal.

Remind me to never come to these boards to ask a question again, everyone here has either put words in my....er...posts(?), or totally ignored everything I write and say and suggest things that either make wild ASSumptions or ignore and misrepresent anything I write.

Good day to you all (well, most of you).

I'm going to get back to turning my speakers down. :)
 
Do you have another external audio DJ mixer available that you could use?

If so, you could connect your speakers to this and then connect the master output of your NS6 to one its channels.

You can then set the master volume on the NS6 to its normal level (So the VU meter display normally) and then use the master volume and/or channel gain on the external mixer to bring the overall sound level down to an acceptable level for playing at home.

If not, you could purchase one very cheaply second hand on eBay. It doesn't need to be anything special when you are just using it for the above purpose.
 
Thanks mate, I was doing that for a while before I sold my DJM mixer which essentially was replaced by the NS6. Problem wasn't serious enough to justify keeping for me since I rarely play at home these days. Nevertheless, if headroom had worked like it would've been welcome.
 
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