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Does there exist a Skin that would allow you the option of Automixing between two decks as well as the choice of mixing to a single deck. The two deck option would allow cueing,setting pitch and tempo, etc. Giving the DJ time to make a nature call. Also is it possible to sync to the single deck in automix,maybe a dumb question but what the heck I'll Ask.
 
Mensajes Tue 11 Mar 14 @ 12:25 pm
Two deck automixing is deprecated in VDJ. You can still use it (automix_dualdeck) however it's functionality is now limited and being deprecated means it could disappear altogether in the future.
 
Why, I would love to have the option to toggle automix between two decks. Just Sayin
 
If you're going deck to deck then you should probably just mix yourself IMHO.

If you've got a playlist running then there is no reason not to have it run on one deck that I can think of - you don't need to worry about leaving the crossfader centered and you still have a deck spare to get ready for when you take the automix off.
 
I like the single deck and use it a good bit,but if your playing a song at 120bpm and the next song in the playlist is let's say 130, then it would be nice to be able to place that song in another deck set the bpm to 120bpm go automix between two decks and make that nature call. That's why I asked if it were possible to sync to the same deck. That would be the same end result as automix to two decks.
 
Depending on your wifi connection I actually think you would have more use from the VDJ app. Provided you can hear what's going on and you leave your crossfader in the center you can make that change on the app. I don't have the app or know how it really works but that's the jist I'm getting from it.
 
I'm trying to wrap my head around your reasoning. You have a play list, and you want to automix it. Why do you have to place a 130 bpm track after a 120 bpm track? I don't know everything, so I'm asking why it has to be that much of a difference in an automix playlist? Maybe I'm a little weird, but if I use automix, I grab a bunch of tracks, in a ascending or descending order. I know we are all different, but how often do you do this, that it becomes an issue?
 
Let me see if I can explain it. As a Reference we'll compare ( and I Hate doing that because I truly enjoy vdj and pretty much use it exclusively.) OTSDJ will allow you to cue up your next song get the tempo like you want it with voice correction, as will vdj,but the big difference for me is it is done in a separate dec k. So if your next song is too fast for the dance that we do you can slow it down to dance speed. My rule of thumb is no more than 17 percent either way max, after that the vocals and music seem to separate. The dance we do is Shag Dance (don't get excited guys from across the pond, our dance is Vertical Not Horizontal. You can check it out on Shagdance.com This music cannot be put in a box Music Wise. One of the current popular songs is Sexual Religion by Rod Stewart, Which I play at about 115bpm. This song would be considered a Smoothie, On the other hand if you played Big Joe Turner - Shake Rattle and roll Straight up it would be way too fast, the crowd would look at you as though you had lost you mind. You would have to slow the song down enough to dance to without destroying the integrity of the song, so this would end up being what we would call a Heater because for the song to sound right you would have to dance somewhat faster (130bpm). So if the song clocks at 140 bpm straight up you would have to slow it down 10bpm.
Our music encompasses Old R&B (40'S & 50'S). Jump Blues,Old Rock & Roll, Instrumentals (Earl Bostic), Sinatra,Bobby Darin, Brother Yusef and the list goes on. So as you can imagine the tempo's of these songs straight out of the gate will be from A to Z. The thing I really enjoy about VDJ Is that when you place the song in a deck it reads the tempo, so you have some idea about the tempo of that song. You see there is no way to set the next song in line to tempo in the playlist if using Automix to a Single Deck. When the song begins to mix you have to slow down or speed up on the fly. In the past we would import the songs to Audition and correct the song to the tempo required. This became to time consuming so for the longest time I Have been bringing he music in just as it was originally recorded and deal with the tempo on the fly. I understand that I can use SYNC and mix manually to the next deck, but there are a lot of times when I am talking to dancers in the dj booth, or as I said earlier need to make a Nature call. For a Lot of Dj's in the Southeast United States Auto Mix to Dual Decks would be a must if not a gamestopper when it comes to making a choice on a Controller/Mixer. I use the Denon MC-6000 Controller and the Asus Republic Of Gamers G74sx.

I understand that a lot if not most DJ'S Across Europe would have no use or very little use for this feature. I know that there are those that wear the Jog Wheels out Beat Mixing and Scratching which if fine and would like to go see a show such as that, but for me it's music selection one on one with the Dancers all night.

I want to thank you guys in advance for your interest, there are not many forums that respond to their fellow dj's as quickly as this sight does. I think we have a wonderful product in VDJ and if some changes can go our way, the Southeast U.S Would all if not Most Go VDJ, Some of my Association Buddies are about to make the leap to something different.
 
It seems to me if you're that reliant on having the software mix for you whilst you stand chatting or visit the can, then maybe you should consider something like MixMeister (Numark), Mixtrax (Pioneer) or Mashup (Mixed In Key) which are designed with a more automated approach, for the DJ who can't (or doesn't want to) mix live himself.
 
I was mixing vinyl before you were a gleem in your mothers eyes and have played every music media to date so I Have forgotten more than you will ever learn. It was a simple question that requires a simple answer. Either the software will or wont do what I want it too after all, those of us that use computers are in fact button pushers, it all boils down to music selection at the right time during the evening you will either keep your gig of loose it. I've been fortunate enough to be employed in the same area for the last 20 years.
 
kinley520 wrote :
I was mixing vinyl before you were a gleem in your mothers eyes and have played every music media to date so I Have forgotten more than you will ever learn.


OK calm yourself! Where did that come from all of a sudden?

If you bothered to look at my profile, you'd see that I've been DJing for more than 30 years - which trumps your mere 20.

Although it is possible you began mixing before me (as you're US based) I doubt very much you were doing it in the late '50s. :-P

The point I'm making is that VDJ is designed to be used live, on the fly by a DJ who wants to be in control. From what you've written (remember that's all people reading have to go on) it sounds as if you're after a more automated solution.

I was simply offering you several options based on what seemed to be your requirements.

I was not attacking you, or claiming (or even implying) that you couldn't mix etc.
 
groovindj wrote :
It seems to me if you're that reliant on having the software mix.


^^^ maybe it was this implication, maybe not.
 
Dear Support, Moderators pf Atomix Productions,

Let everyone do what they want, using mix now, shuffle and automix buttons or not and make it again possible to work also at that way in Virtual DJ. Not all DJ are like David Guetta and others like you. Some DJ still work at the simple way with buttons mix now, automix and shuffle. I use Virtual DJ and other DJ mix software for a long time and I'm a DJ and Radio DJ since 1975 and I use these buttons for my library of 150000 songs also. I know you can mix now with using the keyboard but that isn't a good way to do that. It's very pity to see from you that this way of working with Virtual DJ can disappear in the future. Why must Virtual DJ be like Traktor 2 or other difficult DJ software? There was a time that you could use Virtual DJ with a mix now button, now there's only one video skin where there is a mix now button. I hope and think it must be again possible to place a mix now button, shuffle and automix button in Virtual DJ. Virtual DJ is a very good DJ mix software since the beginning and I only want these buttons back and I hope you can still and will do that.
 
Pick a finger, any finger and you can dj

only kidding...
 
Hey Groovin we are not all MASTERS at Djin like you. Some of us run other stuff while we Dj. Yes I use automix and can understand where the OP is coming from. I use Automix while I am running HUNDREDS of messages thru Firetext doing contests, etc. Get off your high horse and realize there are many DIFFERENT types of djs here. You against me cause I dont scratch and am a TOUCHSCREEN Video DJ??? Arrggh..
 
I agree with you Brian.

We are all different DJ's. That is why we all work with Virtual DJ because it is flexibile enough to cover all bases and work for many types of DJ's. I think sometimes we forget that we are all different and what suits one DJ probably won't suit another.

I have no issue with the OP, and no real issue with CPZ other than the stereotyping of all DJ's based on what they do.

We are all different - let's embrace that!!
 
Should a Mod really be ripping into members like that ...........

Take a chill pill and remember WHY you are a mod !
 
discobrian24 wrote :
Hey Groovin we are not all MASTERS at Djin like you.

Say what? Where exactly did I claim to be a DJing master?

discobrian24 wrote :
Get off your high horse

I'm not on a high horse. As I said earlier, I was simply offering solutions based on what kinley520 had written.

I'm not "against" you or anyone.

I use automated stuff myself. The last mix I did was constructed/produced in Ableton Live, not performed on the fly in VDJ.

I use what's appropriate for the job. It seemed to me as if one of the programs I mentioned earlier would be more suited to the way he works.

Simple as that.
 
To be quite honest I would not have gotten the opportunity to be exposed to virtual dj had it not been for the fact the software I use would not support my denon mc-6000, which is about to change shortly. There are as many different Venues as there are dj's. If they removed the jog wheels from my controller they would not be missed, but that doesn't mean I want that feature deprecated. Others have a use for it so do your thing. I have a dj that follows me on Saturday night that does the Beat mix thing for the college kids. He tells me man I can mix so accurate you will think i'm playing a continuous mix. That's what he does and that's great and I support that, but it's not me. We are on the opposite ends of the Spectrum as far as venues are concerned, but I stay for Awhile and support his venue just has he came out and supported my contest. We should be looking for and supporting a big tent of dj's. We all have different needs and don't need to be challenged when we ask about a particular need. Some dj's are more like a performance where the gig is about them, very much like a band while others play to a dance crowd. Others are Radio djs etc.

Groovindj I understand there are different softwares out there but had no intention of leaving virtual dj. Most dj's use the software live and in there own venue are in control or they will not be there very long. Don't make your world so small.

I read this forum at least once a day and have read where dj's were berated for using SYNC, what a small view. It's good to see that there are other dj's out there that see things the way that I do. Make the software do what the dj's need and you wont have to beg for virtual dj to be number one.
 
I know two people that have decided against VDJ because it doesn't have a basic automix or autofade button between decks like even free or $10 apps like DJAY have. There have been a number of times at parties and weddings where a last minute "drag and drop" of a song and click of a button would have made things a lot better for me for an impromptu 2-song dance-floor game, or allowing for a quick bathroom break or some time to deal with a sudden rush of drunken party goers at last call. I'm really surprised that such a simple but useful feature that is also preventing some people from buying VDJ is frowned upon by VDJ.
 
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