Djratedxxx919
Is there a way to map serato flip functions into VDJ8
Mensajes Sat 26 Mar 16 @ 7:22 pm
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Mensajes Sat 26 Mar 16 @ 7:31 pm
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Djratedxxx919 wrote :
Is there a way to map serato flip functions into VDJ8
Simple answer is no.
I do know a while back Loco had something in the works but not sure if he scraped it.
Mensajes Sat 26 Mar 16 @ 9:03 pm
Djratedxxx919
Actually Serato Flip seems like the idea of VDJ timeline idea, thought out very well....they done did it again...steal the idea improve it then make their users happy...I could be wrong but after playing with it thats how it seems...like in a room, VDJ timeline feature but just it seems like there could be more to it...how about being able to being able to set cue point in the timeline, oh yeah how about being able to save it and look it...yeah....lol
Mensajes Fri 01 Apr 16 @ 5:49 am
SBDJ
It's absolutely nothing like timeline was. At all...
Mensajes Fri 01 Apr 16 @ 3:16 pm
Djratedxxx919
SBDJ wrote :
It's absolutely nothing like timeline was. At all...
Seems to be set on the same basis of in-line track editing which to me is the basis of timeline, this is just to me, it seems like the basis but instead of making it cut and paste they used cue points to make it a simple mix tool that can be used in realtime easily. But the idea is the same..to me. If cue points was added to the timeline feature, that can record and playback the cue sequence, it would be the same. So its like they simplied it by instead of cut and paste we just trigger with cue points so it can be used in realtime. So on deck 1 would be timeline 1 embedded and deck 2 timeline 2 embedded, example from the timeline promo video he was cutting and deleting sections dragging them to realign them, but in flip that same result is just a cue setting. So instead of making it just a preparation thing it also made it realtime usable. its different but the idea is built on VDJ TimeLine. See what they do is take the idea. And VDJ has great Ideas.
Mensajes Fri 01 Apr 16 @ 4:26 pm
SBDJ
In which case you misunderstand what timeline was. It was a completely different concept to flip - timeline was not an inline track editor.
Mensajes Fri 01 Apr 16 @ 6:57 pm
Djratedxxx919
whatever you wish to call it...its the same thing....and this isnt the first idea serato stole and flip it...lol...but for some reason VDJ refuses to see it.. or admit it...
Mensajes Sat 02 Apr 16 @ 12:12 am
klausmogensen
Djratedxxx919 wrote :
whatever you wish to call it...its the same thing....and this isnt the first idea serato stole and flip it...lol...but for some reason VDJ refuses to see it.. or admit it...
I see timeline mixing as a combination of the current VDJ sandbox, some POI stuff, and then the ability to set the result to actually happen when the timeline gets to it. So basically VDJ sandbox + MixMeister functionality
I see Flip as prepared/storeable (and sometimes on the fly) track remixing, but only based on the whole track (no separation of anything like drums or vocals)
The good thing about Flip is how simple/intuitive they got it to behave
The bad thing is that... Well, it's fun for a few minutes, and then you don't use it anymore (at least I don't).
Like a batch full of fun but too weird samples...
There are so many software options that are better for remixing tracks than using Flip (Like Ableton Live or basically any DAW software)
Mensajes Sat 02 Apr 16 @ 1:18 pm
SBDJ
Djratedxxx919 wrote :
whatever you wish to call it...its the same thing....and this isnt the first idea serato stole and flip it...lol...but for some reason VDJ refuses to see it.. or admit it...
But that's my point - they are absolutely not even remotely the same thing. Timeline was not a track editor. Flip allows you to make modifications to a single track. Timeline was absolutely not the same thing at all, in fact it never let you save track edits at all because that wasn't what it was designed for.
Mensajes Sat 02 Apr 16 @ 5:45 pm
Djratedxxx919
OK if i wanted to in timeline could i take bar 1 let it play but once it gets to bar 2 i could cut out bar 2 and bring bar 3 to connect to bar one...take the first beat in bar 3 and repeat it 4 times, equal to a bar, then continue on as the song? And if we call a song a track, then thats editing a track. I didnt mean it as meaning a track in ableton, but the term some use for a song, a track. And if i could do those edits I mention above, all serato did was make it where you set cue points at those bars and you bang it out on the pads instead of mouse-setting POI's, cue points in this instance. And isnt it saveable also?
Mensajes Mon 04 Apr 16 @ 9:52 am
SBDJ
That is where you misunderstand what timeline was.
Yes, you could do all those things, but you could also do so much more - it was multi track, not single track and the multi track part was actually the main element and also functioned in co-operation with your controller/timecode inputs too. It's main purpose wasn't as a track editor - that was possible simply by the nature of what it was - it was designed so that you could lay out your entire set on there if you wanted, but still retain the live performance aspect too.
In any case it's irrelevant since the feature never made it to release. My point was simply that flip and timeline were two entirely different features with entirely different purposes and functionality. Serato didn't steal timeline and turn it into flip. I've used both timeline and flip; trust me they are entirely different.
Yes, you could do all those things, but you could also do so much more - it was multi track, not single track and the multi track part was actually the main element and also functioned in co-operation with your controller/timecode inputs too. It's main purpose wasn't as a track editor - that was possible simply by the nature of what it was - it was designed so that you could lay out your entire set on there if you wanted, but still retain the live performance aspect too.
In any case it's irrelevant since the feature never made it to release. My point was simply that flip and timeline were two entirely different features with entirely different purposes and functionality. Serato didn't steal timeline and turn it into flip. I've used both timeline and flip; trust me they are entirely different.
Mensajes Mon 04 Apr 16 @ 10:34 am
Djratedxxx919
SBDJ wrote :
That is where you misunderstand what timeline was.
Yes, you could do all those things, but you could also do so much more - it was multi track, not single track and the multi track part was actually the main element and also functioned in co-operation with your controller/timecode inputs too. It's main purpose wasn't as a track editor - that was possible simply by the nature of what it was - it was designed so that you could lay out your entire set on there if you wanted, but still retain the live performance aspect too.
In any case it's irrelevant since the feature never made it to release. My point was simply that flip and timeline were two entirely different features with entirely different purposes and functionality. Serato didn't steal timeline and turn it into flip. I've used both timeline and flip; trust me they are entirely different.
Yes, you could do all those things, but you could also do so much more - it was multi track, not single track and the multi track part was actually the main element and also functioned in co-operation with your controller/timecode inputs too. It's main purpose wasn't as a track editor - that was possible simply by the nature of what it was - it was designed so that you could lay out your entire set on there if you wanted, but still retain the live performance aspect too.
In any case it's irrelevant since the feature never made it to release. My point was simply that flip and timeline were two entirely different features with entirely different purposes and functionality. Serato didn't steal timeline and turn it into flip. I've used both timeline and flip; trust me they are entirely different.
Now with what you said above, my statement was that Serato took that idea and simplified it, they had no function like this until after the promo from vdj, probably came to the same reason why vdj chose against it but kept the wheels spinning and took it to its barest function. The editing of one track(song) per deck, but lets make POIs(cues) triggerable using cues, make it saveable and to recall. I think the hip-hop DJ\producer in me just understands how people bite and rewrite. They know VDJ has the best ideas....I would say jack their Ideas, but i see none...but yall do need to take that 99 deck capability and jack Traktor with them fully controllable slot remix decks. ANd I stick to my stance they serato bites vdj ideas...
Mensajes Tue 05 Apr 16 @ 6:31 pm