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Ok i just was wondering

i just want to see how other fourms do there thing and how other dj's using other digital dj system what they talk aboutv and what troubules they run into

because i think all system have there bug to work out
 
Of course, no system on earth is perfect... ;)

The first ones that make that, can retire, and live happily ever after at Costa Rica.

But in the real world, all continues to evolve, progress and fix things...

Regardless of what system you use, it can fail. And regardless of what system you use, you need to know it, and its limitiations.

Even hardware have bugs.. try scratchin on Technics cd decks, or do wild uzi scratchin on Denons..
(both released firmware fixes though, so might be better now)

Same goes for "your software" from "the other side" ;) It releases bug fixes too..

We all do :)

 
I video DJ at a Upper Class (Expensive) Gentlemen's Club (Strip Club) And I do Mobile Dj'ing. Part of the Reason I left The Club I was the Main Resident at For 5 years was the desire to Video Dj. I could Do it and I could do it NOW.

I have a Corporate Video Dance Party. It's an After-Christmas Store Party that a large department Store hired me to do. It's they're Christmas Party. Approx 300 will be attending. I'll be doing the whole gig with my new mobile Video Truss. I've assembled and will be posting pics after the party.

The Party happens AFTER the craziness of Christmas shopping is over.

Hopefully this is the First of many Video Dances.

As Man and His Music would say...........

I don;t have to wait - I'm making money NOW
 
DJ GRANDT wrote :
Where i dj we do not use video too much mostly moble dj use video where i dj i hope that does not make us ignorant



No it does not make you ignorant, just a little slow. Someone just a little smarter and with a little more foresight, will be the first in your area to do video. You will still be standing around talking about how great your skills are. The next thing you know, more and more DJs will offer video, in your area. Then you will get your first call to do video, and will have to tell the client, "I'm sorry but I don't do video", click. After a few more calls like that, you will say to yourself, "Damn, I should have gotten into video earlier". You might still be standing around talking about how great your skills are, but no ones listening.


The jukebox dealer said the same thing about DJs, "No one in my area is using DJs". Seen a jukebox dealer lately? My club was the first Gentleman's club in NJ, to use a DJ, now every club uses DJs.


Personally, I could care less if you do video or not. I just like to be first, because playing catchup is a lot harder. However, if you want to do video, this is the place to come to learn, because we do it better than anyone else.
 
Your user name is out of date then, it should read "A Man and His Music Videos" or simply "A Man and his Videos", it's a shame it's not easier to change your forum name.

Whether you like the idea of something or not doesn't make you ignorant, neither does it make you slow if you choose not to follow a certain trend.

I only seem to hear two extremes here when it comes to video:
1) Video sucks, I'll never do it, look at it or whatever.
2) If you don't do video you'll lose business, you'll be stuck in the past, you'll be behind playing catch-up, soon you'll eventually have no work.

Compared to the truth, both of these views are ignorant if they are applied universally.

The club where I DJ has been doing Video for over ten years, they employ a guy called a "VJ" and he works the screens with all kinds of stuff whilst I mix the music, then there's a guy on the lights. Trust me when I say: Me doing music videos here would be a step back from what the VJ is already offering, I dare say that the odd music video while he goes to the gents would be of benefit (but that's not switching to music videos).

Music Videos are a great addition in some venues, or for some nights/events, not just "some" but many.
On the other hand, Music without music videos will still continue to go strong outside the commercial spectrums, for example: There wont be a time when Scratch DJ's no longer scratch music without video, neither will there be a time when the VJ'ing industry crashes and burns due to DJ's replacing them with Music Video mixing.

Like I've said before, the best DJ in the world isn't necessarily going to be any good at VJ'ing, isn't necessarily going to want to do it, and time will show that MTV is not about to take over the world, I can't speak for specific countries though.
 
Hi,

Good points Bagpuss. Just a thought, but if you started on moving onto music videos, then you could send your music videos feed to the VJ. I bet that the VJ could start mixing the videos into his other graphics. I bet that would look very cool :)
 
Bagpuss wrote :
Your user name is out of date then, it should read "A Man and His Music Videos" or simply "A Man and his Videos", it's a shame it's not easier to change your forum name.

Whether you like the idea of something or not doesn't make you ignorant, neither does it make you slow if you choose not to follow a certain trend.


I should change my name, just because I added a new feature to my business? Now that is one of the silliest things I have heard today, but it's still early. What business do you know that changes it's name because they add something new to the menu? It's still Wendy's even when they added the Spicy Chicken Sandwich. GM didn't change it's name when it added the Hummer. I didn't change it when I switched to powered speakers, or added moving heads. So it should be, A Man & His Music & Mackie 450s & Martin Moving Heads? You can't be serious?

As for the second part of your quote, I believe you missed the point. The point is not to "follow a certain trend", but to lead. Was your club a leader in having a dedicated VJ, or a follower? Did your club jump on the VJ trend, after you saw it was a good thing, or were they one of the innovators? As a matter of fact, why does your club even have a VJ, if music was all that great by itself? Why do they have a light jockey, if all you need is music? What would you call a club owner that was not going to put any lighting in his new club? Ignorant sounds like a good word.

The truth of the matter is, Not everyone has what it takes to be a leader, that's why the world is full of followers. My point to this gentleman was, if no one in the area was doing video, why not be first? He may not have what it takes to be first, but someone will. As I said, I don't care if he does video or not, or did you miss that? I will say it again, How many jukebox dealers do you know?

You don't wait till you feel the first rain drop, to start building the boat. Ask Noah about that.
 
This is for A Man and his Music

I have never got a call to do video and as far as being late i doubt that very seriously like i said the dj scene i am in which is the San francisco bay area video is not popular at all the closet place to SF bay area were the video market is taking off is vegas and when i did gig's there i was the video.

Because when you see me spin you will not worry about video you will be triping on how the F did he do that

Like i said video is overrated and most dj's i see doing video do not really mix and scratch beat juggle and as we say in the Bay reck shop thats what it's about in the bay turning the party out with skills and i can name a lot of dj's in my scene like Qbert, Appllo, Fuse, Mind Motion, and many many more we do not need video because the crowd are to busy watching us.

LOL
 
I am laughing out loud right now.
 
I dont...

Video is NOT cool everywhere yet, and maybe it wont be either.

Video mixing is a STYLE, that is welcomed at some settings..
Just as turntablism scratch is a STYLE, welcommed at some settings.

By no means, will video mixing be the a standard for all types of gigs ;)
 
"A Man with videos masquerading around as a leader in DJ innovation" would be less stupid.

I like you Man, that's why I’m going to kill you last.

But seriously, a man with your attitude should learn how to take some B.S, as you're so skilled in giving it :).
 
I have seen some real cool stuff done with video and for thje dj's that are doing it i hope it takes off

i just know right now its a growing trend that has to catch on and be a little more on the bargin side of prices to get alot of dj's and clubs into it
 
Bagpuss wrote :
I like you Man, that's why I’m going to kill you last.




Come on, you know me better than that. Put me at the top of this list, I want to be first. I don't want any excuses about you being tired.
 
andytaylor125 wrote :
Hi,

Good points Bagpuss. Just a thought, but if you started on moving onto music videos, then you could send your music videos feed to the VJ. I bet that the VJ could start mixing the videos into his other graphics. I bet that would look very cool :)


Good idea, I haven't ruled it out completely. My aspirations lye mainly in being a good "mixer" and I love a lot of underground music and 99% of it doesn't have a music video.
 
A Man and His Music wrote :
Bagpuss wrote :
I like you Man, that's why I’m going to kill you last.




Come on, you know me better than that. Put me at the top of this list, I want to be first. I don't want any excuses about you being tired.


Killing you now would be too easy, you must suffer a few more SSL and "non-licensed user" threads first.
 
Give me a list of the guys ahead of me, and I will take care of the rest.
 
hehe ;)

(No I'm not smiling, I'm hinting at DJ-in-Norway, but don't tell him alright?)
 


hmmmm.....
 
Wow what's up guys! I'm glad you guys had so many nice things to say about me. Just so you all know a couple things, before the lynching continues. first off its not a bias video
Considering the video was made for DJ's already using Virtual DJ. A part of the video that didn't make the final cut I even mention that "we have been using virtual DJ for a long time and now
there's something new". That part I should have left in. I figured that you all know exactly how virtual dj works. I also figured that you guys hadn't seen Serato yet. This was never meant to be a
fricken war! Lol Although I'm glad it woke a few of you up. I was simply pointing out the features I liked about Serato video. I've stated this is the Serato forum as well, that I've been a VDJ user three
times as long as I've been a Serato user. Also i stated that if i had a wedding or mobile gig tomorrow I would use VDJ. Why you ask? Because I like the automix feature at weddings its essential. Also a
feature of video that I like about video on VDJ is the clipbank.

here are some things i want to address:

1. I like my hair cut, it was a present for my birthday.

2. Anger DJ's who hate me keep doing so cause the fact of the matter is I've never heard of you and you've heard of me, who won? ........hmmm

3. The dude bitching about me saying I'm one of the highest paid DJ on the planet took every thing i said to him out of context. That guys a ****. I never said that. I said I'm one of the highest
paid for video djing! Very different. don't twist my words.

4. Any video comparison you guys want to make feature for feature I will do with who ever wants too. This was never meant to be VDJ vs. Serato. It was simply meant to show DJ's in both forums
Video which i have access too and nobody else did. Also it was to demo how fast Serato video worked properly without having to tinker with it.

5. I've bought every possible piece of gear to make VDJ work the way I wanted too. It never did. Does that make VDJ bad? No, I never said that. I just need different thing is a program then you guys do thats all.

6. Again the video was meant to educate you about the Video Plugin for Serato, not to cause a war, and again if anyone here wants to see any feature specifically let me know I'll be happy to show you.

7. I happen to met some cool people in the process of all this. Ikutz aka Ian that Kid is cool and showed me he could plug off some cool Scratchs i was never able too with VDj. Like Fast Cherps and A Cherp Flare.
Dj-In-Norway thank for trying to keep this the way I attended. Normal, and calm.


I don't feel like i need to offer this but I'm going to do so anyways. If you guys want me to make a comparison video that show the strength and weakness' of each program I will. no problem.

Ps I don't get paid anything from Serato not one penny. nor do I receive any money from any corporate sponsor, such as Promo Only, Rane, Ecler, or VDJ. No one.

I hope this ends some of this or starts this is a new direction where we all might start learning more about these programs, instead of fighting like idiots.


 
krisdjsteel wrote :

I hope this ends some of this or starts this is a new direction where we all might start learning more about these programs, instead of fighting like idiots.



Exactly!

How hard is it to say, "wow, that cut to black feature SSL got rocks!", or "VDJ offers far more options to plugins, transitions and video formats"

or what ever else...

Comparison is healthy, it makes BOTH products better.

Slamming, stabbing, and attacks is at kindergarden level, just freaking STUPID, as we are after all same breed.. We are all djs, regardless if its SSL or VDJ we use.

I sincerely respect the djs choice about what software works best for him, and supports him all the way what ever choice that migth be.

BTW, I never found your video wrong, it SIMPLY showed the "new guy on town" and what it offered ("everybody" knows VDJ so why show that)

 
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