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There are many people on the forum worried about when 5.1 is coming out when the current version is fantastic as it is. Yes, it could use some tune ups but it does the job most can't. I was doing my to do list this morning and thought about the times when I had to look through my catalog of music list by song and artist. Sometimes it almost took me the whole song to find something to play that would fit next. Then updates were a nightmare to do. Do I reprint the whole thing or make an updated page which eventually I had to reprint the whole thing. So every other month or so I had to reprint and spend tones of money. The times were a alot more hands on in the art of DJing. Now, you can put together a whole show then push play and not have to touch another button for the remain of the night. You can prelisten to 20 songs before you choose the right song. The way I see it, the only NEGATIVE side of VDJ or any other software is the request factor. Now people come up to you for a request and they expect you to look for it right then and there because you have the power. Before people put the request in and walked away.

Everyone wants a BMW, MERCEDES, 4 wheel drive, stick shift that can change into a manual when needed, awsome sound, from a compact size unit but it must fit least all my family and the dog. Oh and by the way it has to run on little resources.
 
fatkatzdj,
VDJ is a great piece of software, but bringing it down to your car example:
I need a car (VDJ-Version) that I am able to drive with my existing driving license (= my two CDJ-400).
Would you buy a car that you couldn't drive?!

And right at the moment Pioneer as the manufacturer missed it out to create a functional software (Pioneer DJS is full of bugs and an end isn't in sight). Would be a good moment for one of the leading DJ-Software developers to come to the market with the first fully functional software - regarding the amount of sold CDJ-400, such a software would sell like icecream in the summer!
 
Yes you have a concern but the bottom line is this: When is VDJ 5.1 coming out? A: Soon, with no release date.

Then the question is: Can you give a more specific date BECAUSE ( enter your own logic / reason here ).

There is no real discussion if the non licence user is inquiring and places constructive discussions but the problem fall in place with the non licence use who give the impression of intitlement because he uses the software and may have a lifetime of knowledge but almost in a pushy way of why he needs the new version or updates. LOW FAT AL said it best with his Madona scenario...

We like hearing from the non licence people but its disrespectful to the people who spend time fixing and repairing others units and you come in saying yours don't work because: and you have a cracked copy obviousely... not direct towards any one person.
 
ejgutierrez wrote :

Is it a privilege to use the forums ? I dont think so. I dont justify the use of cracks. Im not the devil. I only point out customers compare, search, evaluate prices and make decissions. Again i would like to see some interesting and new ideas about vdj. About how to manage updates, skins, maps, bugs etc ... More information flowing between devs and customers in both directions. What are the weak points of vdj ?.


From Wikipedia,
A customer refers to individuals or households that purchase goods and services generated within the economy. The word historically derives from "custom," meaning "habit"; a customer was someone who frequented a particular shop, who made it a habit to purchase goods there, and with whom the shopkeeper had to maintain a relationship to keep his or her "custom," meaning expected purchases in the future.






ejgutierrez wrote :

All your ideas are censorship ? If you dont think like me ill lock your account. Well i had to register again with other name ? Again im mainly interested in reading posts about new versions and features and upgrades and technical problems. When vdj suits my needs ill buy it. . So i wanted to hear from you about new politics, future plan, roadmap, to do things. But you are only interested in censorship. If you want to lock my account you have the "privilege" not the right because i ve been educated and polished and treated everyone with respect. I dont support cracked versions.


I have not censored anything in your posts, in fact I have leveled up posts attacking you and advised pro users not to do so.
Your account has not been locked, so I'm not sure what you are talking about with respect to "Well i had to register again with other name".
I have politely asked that you purchase the software if you wish to interact with specific changes you wish to see made.
You issue an untimatum that we suit your needs or you won't buy it.

You have admitted to using a crack, yet you state you don't support the use of cracks.

Gonna give this one more chance, or this thread is done.


 
By "waiting" for 5.1 you are wasting your money or in other words getting less value, because if you buy VDJ now you will get VDJ 5.0 rev7 and subsequent versions (including 5.1) for that price, so by "waiting for 5.1" you are wasting time and money, it's not rocket science.

I wont assume that you are a cracked version user, but if you do have a cracked copy then poor stability can only be attributed to that fact, for two reasons, one being that it's "cracked" so it is by definition a version that has been 'tampered' with (and these versions are notoriously "dickey"), the second reason is that by not having a licence you are not entitled to the product support that the support team and the experienced users here can offer, I've been using VDJ since 2003 and I know it like the back of my hand, the current version is rock solid on two very different machines, when a user does have a problem, there will be someone here that can solve that problem.

Something else I have to disagree with, is the notion that the Dev team do not listen to their customer base, they do and they have been doing so since the day I registered, several things in VDJ have been implemented or changed as a direct result of my input, and that enriches my product loyalty and support (as it has many others).

But there are literally hundreds of thousands of users who have not registered (you can decide how many of them use/have used the demo versus cracked version users), and unless any of these users have an amazing idea that has not yet been thought of, their voice is somewhat less important than paying customers, especially when they are talking about stability which has been comprised by a cracked version and is not experienced by registered users. The Dev team listens to professional DJ's who use this product out in the field for hours and hours at a time, including some big name DJ's/acts, and it is stability and bugs that take priority over feature requests.

VDJ supports more controllers natively than any other product on the market, products such as the CDJ-400 and VCI-100 can for the moment be used with decent results through the software's general midi mapping feature (and mapping files can be downloaded from this website, for registered users), that is until both of these products are supported natively, which history has told us will be soon.

Personally I’d just buy a genuine edition of the software, enjoy the stability, the access that it grants me (download effects, skins, plugins, controller mappers etc), as well as the support and direct line with the dev team that registered users can enjoy.

The sooner one buys the software, the sooner one can learn the program and enjoy the benefits, which only speeds up the waiting process for subsequent releases?
 
ejgutierrez wrote :
Can you please have some ideas or discussions to improve vdj ? Thats what i want to hear from you.


See another benefit of being a licensed users is this. I post my ideas for improvement in the VIP forum. Once you purchased your license with your knowledge and skills I am confident that it would not take you long to move up into the ranks to become a VIP.

Now, before you ask, yes I purchased all of the software I use from a certified vendor and do not use hacked/pirated/cracked software. I do use some free software, but I use the word free when I am doing my searches. I also purchase all of my music, or it is given to me as a gift.

Please purchase the software, we have a great many current users who once used a cracked version like you and a vast majority of them claim buying VDJ was one of the smartest moves they ever made. If you do not support the use of cracked software, as Rick reminded you, then purchasing is the best/safest option.


Wolpaxx wrote :
My story?
I bought two Pioneer CDJ-400 and I'm now searching for the software that natively supports my CD-Players. I tested a lot with software from colleagues, but none satisfied me yet - but I keep tracking the rumors about VirtualDJ support the CDJ-400 natively in 5.1. If VirtualDJ brings that support first, I'll immediately buy a copy because I like VDJ!


I'm waiting for the same thing you are, meanwhile I am enjoying VDJs many great options and features. I encourage you to buy now and learn all of the intricacies of VDJ and once 5.1 comes out you will be ahead of the game. Then you will be able to enjoy the CDJ-400s and not be trying to figure out why VDJ acted the way it did.

 
Can we close this forum now....please....its messing with my reasoning ability.....
 
Most people buy the car first (VDJ), and then the accessories to go with it, not the other way around. I do my research first to see if the tires & rims I like will fit on the car, now. Otherwise, I\'m sitting at home with great tires & rims sitting in a garage, with no car. If that sounds like a bright idea, go for it. VDJ is a great car, comes ready to drive, with tires and rims on it. It even has options for other tires and rims, right now. You don\'t like those options, so you went with the tires and rims you like, and decided to wait for the next model. That is your right, and does not affect any of us one way or the other. What does affect us is, no money coming in, no development. If this continues, I may have to pay for all the upgrades, I have been getting for free. You see how simple that is? I just try to look at things the way they are, not the way I wish them to be. I do not know if either one of you is a crack head or not. That is not my job to monitor your status. My history shows that I help non license users all the time. I will ignore known crack heads and cryers, because that is my choice. So, even though I can\'t tell if you are a crack head or not, I can tell if all you do is cry.

I am here almost every day, for several hours. I do not have all the answers, but can still help you by shining some light on your issue. You will receive more help on these forums, so it is a good idea to build some relationships, so that help comes to you in a timely manner. Ever see a thread with 20 hits, and no replies? The people that monitor this forum, have been given that responsibility by the owners. They can do what they think is right, whether you like it or not. I have not seen a moderator abuse their position, since I have been here. To even suggest censorship is stupid, and we are all laughing at the reference.
 
lennyndegwa wrote :
Can we close this forum now....please....its messing with my reasoning ability.....


I advise not reading it then.
 
A Man and His Music wrote :
I have not seen a moderator abuse their position, since I have been here. To even suggest censorship is stupid, and we are all laughing at the reference.


One of the few guidelines we moderators are given is no censorship(other than dropping "f" bombs like Curtis LeMay http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_LeMay ). If we are uncertain of the correct course of action raise a subject to a higher level and let someone with more experience/higher authority decide what is best. Censorship is a huge No-No on this forum.
 
Wolpaxx


Well,
time for a comment from another "cracked-using-pirate-like-demon-from-hell"-NoLicenseUser:
(Why don't you change the name from "no license user" to "cracked software user"? Seems like in your world there is no difference...)

I'm awaiting 5.1, too!
And the first thing I'll do when 5.1 is released, is buying an original from the online-shop.

My story?
I bought two Pioneer CDJ-400 and I'm now searching for the software that natively supports my CD-Players. I tested a lot with software from colleagues, but none satisfied me yet - but I keep tracking the rumors about VirtualDJ support the CDJ-400 natively in 5.1. If VirtualDJ brings that support first, I'll immediately buy a copy because I like VDJ!

But I won't spend a single dollar now for being insecure wheter an update will be released nor if it will support my CD-Players. Maybe VirtualDJ takes my 300 bucks of investments and spends it on the Bahamas instead of bringing a new version - making me look like a donkey...

Wolpaxx you are the man. You search, compare and take a decission. Vdj has to improve the Pioneer CDJ-400. This would make a lot of people happier. Its an idea of improving vdj. People can sign this idea. People can refuse this idea. Final words its in dev team. This is what i want. You are not so dumb to buy something you wont use. Or ( at least at the cost of 300$). vdj team: you have one item to speak or discuss about it.


mp3jrick

I have not censored anything in your posts, in fact I have leveled up posts attacking you and advised pro users not to do so.
Your account has not been locked, so I'm not sure what you are talking about with respect to "Well i had to register again with other name".
I have politely asked that you purchase the software if you wish to interact with specific changes you wish to see made.
You issue an untimatum that we suit your needs or you won't buy it.

You have admitted to using a crack, yet you state you don't support the use of cracks.

I use a cracked version but i dont promote or encourage anybody to use them. As they are buggy and gives a lots of problems and crashes. I use it at my own risk.
Well i had to register again with other name ??? You missed the question mark. I was saying that its a useless decission ( and quite unfair)
I dont give ultimatums in my life: there are many things i take care in buying vdj or anything else in my life: price, features, service, stability... Although you don believe me im nearer to buy vdj than not buy.

Another thing: If dev team were more transparent and talk about new features, updates, plans, to do lists, roadmaps perhaps wolpaxx could buy one vdj, and near in the future me too. Two little more copys selled.

I encourage all the forum to follow wolpaxx steps ( and mine too) in order to improve vdj, dont be conformist.

Respect
 
I understand your logic of prelisting a upcoming list of things coming. But like most software development ideas change and now you have people shouting what happened to - I spent money on the idea of what you posted and now you didn't deliver what was promised. You did the ole bate and switch thing and I want my money back. Is that how you would run your business on a promise your not your going to make happen because your goals changed in the process of moving foward.

PCDJ is a prime example of what was to come but never did really.
 
mp3jrick wrote :
You have admitted to using a crack, yet you state you don't support the use of cracks.



ejgutierrez wrote :

I use a cracked version but i dont promote or encourage anybody to use them. As they are buggy and gives a lots of problems and crashes. I use it at my own risk.


ejgutierrez wrote :

I encourage all the forum to follow wolpaxx steps ( and mine too) in order to improve vdj, dont be conformist.

Respect


Well thats all I need to read.
Look up the word respect when you get a second.

After searching your posts, I find them all in the same content and tone going all the way back to ver 3.4.
You are full of it, and have no intention of buying this software.
Your 4th post of this thread you say you are dumb.
Dumb like a fox.

 


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